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Tool 316
July 20th, 2007, 10:43 PM
Before i get flamed for saying what i have to say, let me get this out of the way first, i do not in any way or form support or condone the actions of Michael Vick and whoever else was involved.now with that being said, let me say this, i believe that this country is the only country that an animal has more rights than a human being. i have been hearing all these hatefull comments being said about vick, obviously because of what he did, thats fine he deserves that much. but lets take a look at what other celeberties has done and what consequence they faced, R kelly pissed on an raped a young girl (statutory) yet he walks the street a free man. The Vice president of the united states shoots a man in the neck, with virtually no consequences. Micheal Vick was indited for dogfighting,(once again not condoning his actions) and senators want the death penalty.
i apologizes if this has been posted already.

Michael Vick Dogfighting Case Makes Way to Floor of U.S. Senate


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RICHMOND, Va. — The Michael Vick (javascript:siteSearch('Michael Vick');) dogfighting case made its way to the floor of the U.S. Senate Thursday when its most senior member publicly declared his outrage, saying he's witnessed one execution but wouldn't mind seeing another "if it involves this cruel, sadistic, cannibalistic business of training innocent, vulnerable creatures to kill."
The strong words from Sen. Robert Byrd (javascript:siteSearch('Robert Byrd');), D-WV, widely known for his devotion to animals, come as dogfighting controversy swirls around the Atlanta Falcons (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290061,00.html?=vick#) star quarterback. Vick and three others were indicted earlier this week on felony charges of competitive dogfighting, procuring and training pit bulls for fighting, and conducting the enterprise across state lines.
The dogs were housed, trained and fought at a property owned by Vick in Surry County, Va., under an outfit named "Bad Newz Kennels," the indictment says.
Among the grisly findings: Losing dogs either died in the pit or were electrocuted, drowned, hanged or shot. The indictment said purses climbed as high as $20,000 for fights.
Byrd called the activities described in the Vick case "sadistic" and "barbaric." At one point, Byrd began shouting and pumping his fist.
"Barbaric!," he yelled. "Let that word resounding from hill to hill, and from mountain to mountain, and valley to valley across the broad land. Barbaric! Barbaric! May God help those poor souls who'd be so cruel. Barbaric! Hear me! Barbaric!"



NFL Quarterback Michael Vick Indicted in Dog Fighting Case (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289693,00.html)
Byrd, 89, said he would not prejudge the men's guilt or innocence, but he left no doubts about his sentiments.
"I am confident that the hottest places in hell are reserved for the souls of sick and brutal people who hold God's creatures in such brutal and cruel contempt," he said.
"One is left wondering," he said. "Who are the real animals: the creatures inside or outside the ring?"
Meanwhile, the Falcons owner and CEO released his first public statement on the matter Thursday, saying he was "working diligently on exploring our options" on the indicted quarterback.
"This situation affects everyone — our club, our players and associates, our sponsors, our fans and the Atlanta community among them — so we must consider all of our customers in making any decisions," Arthur Blank said in a statement. "Given the differing perspectives and strong feelings around this issue, we probably won't make everyone happy, but we are committed to doing the right thing."
Blank added that he was "saddened and distressed about this — not for myself, for our fans and community who have been so loyal to us."
ESPN (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290061,00.html?=vick#) reported that Vick had called Blank, and said sources believed Vick to have been contrite, apologetic and grateful for Blank's support.
Vick's legal troubles prompted Nike to suspend the release of its latest product line named after him.
Nike told retailers it will not release a fifth signature shoe, the Air Zoom Vick V, this summer. Nike spokesman Dean Stoyer said the four shoe products and three shirts that currently bear Vick's name will remain in stores.
That news comes on the heels of a statement from the Humane Society of the United States (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290061,00.html?=vick#) calling upon Nike to pull its Vick clothing and shoes from retailers and from its Web site. It also called upon NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend Vick.
Vick and the three associates are set to appear in Richmond July 26 for bond hearings and arraignments on charges contained in a detailed, 18-page indictment. Conviction carries up to six years in prison, fines of $350,000 and restitution.
But after the hearing, Vick will likely rejoin the Falcons as he awaits his court date. After consulting with the Falcons, Goodell and top league officials agreed Wednesday to let Vick play as the legal process determines the facts.
The NFL (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290061,00.html?=vick#) players' union took the same stance as the league.
"It's unfortunate that Michael Vick (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290061,00.html?=vick#) is in this position, as these allegations are extremely disturbing and offensive," the union said in a statement. "This case is now in the hands of the judicial system, and we have to allow the legal process to run its course. However, we recognize Michael still has the right to prove his innocence. Hopefully, these allegations are untrue and Michael will be able to continue his NFL career."
Goodell and Blank say they met individually with Vick in May after the investigation started, telling him to straighten up or risk discipline.
Blank said he "could not have been more stern" in telling Vick that he represents himself, the franchise and the league and needs to do it right.
"They both challenged me to be more accountable in all areas of my life. I know I need to make some changes around me to make sure that the people in my life have my best interest at heart," Vick said at the time. "My goal is to not let my fans, my teammates or my coaches down."
The Falcons signed Vick to a 10-year, $130 million contract in December 2004. He has been paid about $44 million, including $37 million in guaranteed bonuses, and is due to earn a base salary of $6 million this season.
Teams can amortize the salary cap implications of signing bonuses, but if a player is cut, all bonuses paid but not yet factored into the salary cap must be accounted for within two years.
The Falcons face an estimated salary cap hit of about $6 million this year and $15 million in 2008 if they release Vick — devastating hits to any team's budget.

PiP4LyFe
July 20th, 2007, 11:16 PM
Good he should get the death penalty, if he is guilty.

soldier one
July 21st, 2007, 12:32 AM
i believe that this country is the only country that an animal has more rights than a human being.
Thanks you now i know im not the only one that thinks that. Now to the fact, the death penealty for dog fighting!!! COME ON. I think this guy should loose is mayor status now, obviously he aint capable of rightfull decisons.

"I am confident that the hottest places in hell are reserved for the souls of sick and brutal people who hold God's creatures in such brutal and cruel contempt," he said.

Yea and now the nametag was changed to his own. :lol:

I seriously dont get it, someone kills a person they go to jail and no one talks about it again until the guy is put on the death sentance and his time has come. A person kills a animal and the whole country goes crazy, people boycott, people are threatning him, and its the worst thing that ever happened. Yea its really bad that he did that but not bad enough to do death, plus he hasnt been proven guilty wtf?

c.a.p
July 21st, 2007, 04:01 AM
An animal can not defend itself as an adult human could. It's practically the same situation as it is with children. A person sick enough to harm an innocent and defenseless creature does not deserve sympathy.

QuickSilverD
July 21st, 2007, 04:40 AM
An animal can not defend itself as an adult human could. It's practically the same situation as it is with children. A person sick enough to harm an innocent and defenseless creature does not deserve sympathy. You make it sound as if those dogs were terriers, not pitbulls.

Anyway, it would be kind of ridiculous to execute someone for animal cruelty, sure it is a bad thing, but is not worth the death of a person. man this reminds me of PETA, those people love animals more than people

c.a.p
July 21st, 2007, 04:59 AM
You make it sound as if those dogs were terriers, not pitbulls.

Anyway, it would be kind of ridiculous to execute someone for animal cruelty, sure it is a bad thing, but is not worth the death of a person. man this reminds me of PETA, those people love animals more than people

Let me make myself clear, I do not think that he deserves death, but I do think that he deserves to do time for what he has done. Also, the breed of the dogs does not make a difference in my opinion. They did not have any say in the matter. They can not revolt against their owners. They were forced to do these things, and it is disgusting to me.

Also, PETA is a load of ****. They do much more harm than good, and only care when it benefits them.

DINAMO788
July 21st, 2007, 09:24 AM
as much as i hate him and wouldn't mind it if he died it would be so stupid to do it over this.


btw soldier dont thinky ou silenced me with your last post because its pretty easily rebuttable im just lazy and its too late now. regardless i dont know why you give him so much credit and stick up for him so much. ask someone who doesn't really follow football what should be done and i think they'll agree more with me than you....hey i dont watch football and i agree more with me. see i win!

jakncoke
July 21st, 2007, 09:31 AM
Okay, I think what he did was pretty bad and think the 6 years he facing is light, but when you have people like rapist not getting the needle or like in my area where a drunk ran over a kid, stopped and back up over him and only got 2 years. So pretty much what I'm saying these alcohol related manslaughters and rapists should be put in the needle category way before dogfighting.

305_monzii
July 21st, 2007, 09:35 AM
so is michael vick the ring leader of all dog fighting in the world now?? is he the don king of dog fighting?? obviously he is not. so why havent we heard about any other cases of dog fighting and people possibly being executed for it!?

jakncoke
July 21st, 2007, 09:38 AM
Because he is a star and when they get in trouble it's blown way outta proportion.

soldier one
July 22nd, 2007, 04:38 AM
Let me make myself clear, I do not think that he deserves death, but I do think that he deserves to do time for what he has done. Also, the breed of the dogs does not make a difference in my opinion. They did not have any say in the matter. They can not revolt against their owners. They were forced to do these things, and it is disgusting to me.

I agree if he did do it... Also to your above statement yes dogs and other animals cant fend for themselves but that shouldnt mean they get more rights. I mean little kids and alot of women are just as volunerable but they get beat up and the other person goes to jail for a few years and no one cares?

btw soldier dont thinky ou silenced me with your last post because its pretty easily rebuttable im just lazy and its too late now. regardless i dont know why you give him so much credit and stick up for him so much. ask someone who doesn't really follow football what should be done and i think they'll agree more with me than you....hey i dont watch football and i agree more with me. see i win!




I dont see why your so mad at me? I voiced my opinion in that subjext and you said "I dont know whats wrong with you lately" then started calling me out. Its just my opinion i dont care who wins, thats what i beleive.

Okay, I think what he did was pretty bad and think the 6 years he facing is light, but when you have people like rapist not getting the needle or like in my area where a drunk ran over a kid, stopped and back up over him and only got 2 years. So pretty much what I'm saying these alcohol related manslaughters and rapists should be put in the needle category way before dogfighting.
Exactly, there is a guy here in AZ that raped like 50 girls and got away with it for years. They cought him almost a year ago and they are still deciding how much time he will do. WTF?

Because he is a star and when they get in trouble it's blown way outta proportion.
Just like the gambling ring that they accused gretzky with. And i feel the same way as when that happened. No one is guilty until they are proven, if it wasnt that way then gretzkys career would be trashed right now.

Along with that acusation they ruined several hockey players careers, some of which are allowed to come back next season.

macel82
August 11th, 2007, 12:53 PM
Doesn't surprise me ol' Senator Byrd wants to lynch another black dude. After all, he used to be in the KKK.

DINAMO788
August 11th, 2007, 07:18 PM
was he? now which redneck state elected him?

macel82
August 12th, 2007, 04:39 AM
was he? now which redneck state elected him?


You can thank West Virginia for that. The funny thing is how people always say things like "Republicans hate blacks" and "George Bush doesn't care about black people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd

Soviet635
August 17th, 2007, 03:57 AM
You make it sound as if those dogs were terriers, not pitbulls.

Anyway, it would be kind of ridiculous to execute someone for animal cruelty, sure it is a bad thing, but is not worth the death of a person. man this reminds me of PETA, those people love animals more than people

And that makes a difference how?

hgmaster
August 17th, 2007, 06:21 AM
Maybe its an attempt to get back for O.J. :gta:

Hexadecimal
August 19th, 2007, 11:20 PM
I don't see how its legal to give the death penalty to him, afterall, animals don't have human rights, they're considered property.

DINAMO788
August 20th, 2007, 12:41 AM
its not its just one man's stupid opinion and it will never happen.

as far as im concerned the prupose of this thread is to show what an idiot byrd is

macel82
August 20th, 2007, 05:49 AM
Maybe its an attempt to get back for O.J. :gta:

LOL. Finally, HG, you say something I can agree with.

roushman90
November 6th, 2007, 06:09 AM
This will never happen, it's sad that as a High School Government student, I'm more in touch with the U.S Constitution than one of our elected leaders!

One-Shot
November 6th, 2007, 06:13 AM
This will never happen, it's sad that as a High School Government student, I'm more in touch with the U.S Constitution than one of our elected leaders!
Stop bumping dead topics already.

kflashin
November 6th, 2007, 08:00 AM
why is it that topics that haven't seen action in a certain amount of time aren't automatically deleted,doesn't seem it would be that hard to do.
on subject:they are just dogs people,quite low on the life line.I have a pitbull myself that's very well behaved,but the first sign of her acting up and i'll blow her brains out,simple.And as for VICK he might as well get the death penalty because his career is over

Tyrien
November 6th, 2007, 04:05 PM
Wow.

The man obviously has a bias, that's for sure.

There's no doubt about it though what Mike Vick did was pretty horrible, it's certainly not to the extent of execution though, or even life in prison.

Edit: Oh, well either way I still meant what I said.

DINAMO788
November 6th, 2007, 05:15 PM
....anyone who replied after oneshot is still bumping this thread. please stop replying so it can just die on its own

roushman90
November 10th, 2007, 07:33 AM
Sorry, I was tired, wasn't paying attention to the dates.:-|

Chemo
December 5th, 2007, 12:15 AM
Good he should get the death penalty, if he is guilty.

**** you, do you show the same morals when eating a chicken, cow...etc. Dogfighting should be illegal i don't condone the practice but taking a man's life over something like that is boderline insane.

Tenchi
December 5th, 2007, 03:54 AM
Robert Byrd? As in racist Robert Byrd? As in erstwhile member of the KKK Robert Byrd? He should talk about injustice... Disgusting bigot.

Morganator
December 5th, 2007, 04:15 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. It's just an animal and last time I checked, humans fall into the same category. We're all animals first and foremost so no one should forget that.

Don G.
December 10th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Good he should get the death penalty, if he is guilty.

Jesus man...take it easy. I don't condone in any way what he did and he fully deserves his sentence. I just wish that everyone was treated this way. I find it hard to believe that Leonard Little killed someone driving drunk and he only gets an 8 game suspension and resumes his career. It really does seem like we put more worth in an animals life then we do in our own. Vick messed up and he's suffering the consequences but he doesn't deserve to die. What kind of world are we trying to make here?

You and the senator are complete lunatics. How could you condone taking the man's life? Inform yourself before making assinine comments. Vick has done a lot for the community and came from a very rough upbringing. He's made a mistake but in no way does he deserve to die for it. Christ man, what a psycho.

Firefox
December 11th, 2007, 03:29 AM
If Peyton did anything like this..I don't think any senator would dare to say a statement
with the word "execution".

MDXLink
December 11th, 2007, 03:38 AM
If Peyton did anything like this..I don't think any senator would dare to say a statement with the word "execution".

Probably because Peyton doesn't have a history of trouble and thuggery like Vick and his family

An_Ocean_Between_Us
December 13th, 2007, 03:10 AM
This is a joke. The only reason its a big deal is because it involved someone with fame.

What about UFC, guys training to take each others heads off in a cage. Not much different is it?

MDXLink
December 13th, 2007, 03:49 AM
This is a joke. The only reason its a big deal is because it involved someone with fame.

What about UFC, guys training to take each others heads off in a cage. Not much different is it?

Are they lying to the federal government numerous times, breaking federal laws with millions, and failing drug tests while federal court proceedings have begun?

If not, not much of a comparison

shinoff2183
December 24th, 2007, 10:46 PM
I did not know that he was involved in the KKK. Now with knowing that who the fu.ck is he to say that vick should die. What him and his Klan did back then to blacks is alot worse. Personally if he feels so strongly about vick getting the death penalty, he should off himself.

****ing racist