Ron Paul for Prez

[twh116]

What do you guys think of Ron Paul? I hadn't even heard of him until I saw him on the Colbert Report. I really liked what he said and I think you should read about his beliefs on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

Vote for Ron Paul and restore the Constitution!

[OKlondon]

Do you really want another Republican?

[lordmadjack]

Open minded much OK London? ;) its mindless comments like that that make politics the sess pool it is today :(

Although I would rather judge a canidate in a debate rather than on the Daily show or the Colbert Report ...o0 better to hear there views etc.

[OKlondon]

Open minded much OK London? ;) its mindless comments like that that make politics the sess pool it is today :(

Although I would rather judge a canidate in a debate rather than on the Daily show or the Colbert Report ...o0 better to hear there views etc.

:lol: All I m saying that Bush is a republican and some might say, he has done a bad job, do want someone from the same party.

I dont the guy, so I m not going to judge.

[twh116]

:lol: All I m saying that Bush is a republican and some might say, he has done a bad job, do want someone from the same party.

I dont the guy, so I m not going to judge.

I do not judge based on party because the whole party system is stupid. I would never judge a person based on the party they are affiliated with because that tells nothing about them. To think that all Republicans are the same or that all Democrats are the same is absurd.

I did not get swear loyalty to Paul after watching his interview on the Colbert Report. The Colbert Report taught me a little about him and then I learned the rest on various websites.

[hoverbike]

He is the only person worth voting for as far as I'm concerned and has the least amount of skeletons "hiding in the closet" out of all of them. He is what America needs right now with the other damage being inflicted. He is anti-NWO and a protector of the Constitution.

It doesn't matter what party is with since he is not really like any other of the Republicans. He pretty much won the debates as shown on these online poles and yet the media is still trying to hide it.

Ron Paul voted against the Patriot Act, opposes the draft, and pushes the re-introduction of the gold standard.

[OKlondon]

I do not judge based on party because the whole party system is stupid. I would never judge a person based on the party they are affiliated with because that tells nothing about them. To think that all Republicans are the same or that all Democrats are the same is absurd.

I did not get swear loyalty to Paul after watching his interview on the Colbert Report. The Colbert Report taught me a little about him and then I learned the rest on various websites.

Oh I m not American so I dont know exactly how it works in America, but in England people in the same party usually want the same thing, so you kind of vote for the party rather the person.

[Christonian]

this guy is so old hes 71 how long will he live as president

[DayWalker]

I like him... and if can hang for a long time I'll consider him.

but he won't.

[hoverbike]

this guy is so old hes 71 how long will he live as president

Ron Paul used to be a doctor. I think he will probably live at least another 10 years before his health starts to affect his work. I wouldn't care because there are older people in high positions already.

I like him... and if can hang for a long time I'll consider him.

but he won't.
I think **** Cheney is worse off then him in health! How many heart attacks has that guy had? Just the VP but if Bush didn't overcome that pretzel, who knows what would have happened.

[macel82]

In the debate a week or two ago he sounded like a goofy nutbag to me. I much prefer Giuliani.

[DayWalker]

In the debate a week or two ago he sounded like a goofy nutbag to me. I much prefer Giuliani.

:lol:

sorry but that's just funny!!!

Naw, I'll give Rudi a chance. I wish he would quit acting like he did something on 911 tho. And I wish he would quit talkin about Iraq like its going great...

[hoverbike]

In the debate a week or two ago he sounded like a goofy nutbag to me. I much prefer Giuliani.

I guess freedom and defending the Constitution is goofy. Ron pretty much crushed everyone else during each debate and if you pay attention close enough, he was given less time then the other candidates. We call that a "rigged" debate.

[age one]

What do you guys think of Ron Paul? I hadn't even heard of him until I saw him on the Colbert Report. I really liked what he said and I think you should read about his beliefs on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

Vote for Ron Paul and restore the Constitution!

I like ron paul, technically, he's more libertarian then republican, but since the libertarian party just has a hard time getting on the ticket in some states he's better off running as a republican. he has some views that are more republican then libertarian though (he's pro life, vs. pro choice for instance.)

www.lp.org (http://www.lp.org)

unfortunately, he won't be making it very far, the better candidates never do. I'd say both Paul and Richardson would make good presidents (even thought they are some what opposite), but they'll never get the chance.

were either gonna be stuck with the Commie Hillary, or the hard core bible thumper like Thompson or Romney. they all just sound like they want to be elected but have nothing to provide.

also:
I swear if I hear them arguing about the who voted for the war one more friggen time... who gives a **** at this point about who voted for it, I wanna here who has a good idea about fixing it, I don't mean just pulling out, or just staying the course, a real friggen plan.

[Behemoko]

You're missing the option that says "I don't know who he is, and don't care because I wouldn't vote for him anyway.."

[macel82]

You're missing the option that says "I don't know who he is, and don't care because I wouldn't vote for him anyway.."

Exactly. So even if he's a great guy and has great ideas, he can't win and for that reason alone, you shouldn't vote for him in any primary because you will be taking votes away from a viable candidate.

[hoverbike]

Exactly. So even if he's a great guy and has great ideas, he can't win and for that reason alone, you shouldn't vote for him in any primary because you will be taking votes away from a viable candidate.
Not quite:

Link: http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_more_popular_google_search_term_than_ipho ne.htm

KVUE segment on Ron Paul revealing that the Texas Congressman and presidential candidate gets more Google search hits than Paris Hilton or the iPhone. Paul's runaway popularity is growing every day and his chances of beating the other frontrunners are realistic.

[paranoia13]

Exactly. So even if he's a great guy and has great ideas, he can't win and for that reason alone, you shouldn't vote for him in any primary because you will be taking votes away from a viable candidate.

Jesus christ, people like you.

If someone like obama or Hilary or any other Republican but Ron Paul is elected this country will find itself in even deeper **** than it already is. The ONLY thing that is stopping Ron Paul from gaining popularity is 1. The assumption that since he is in the republican party he is **** in any democrats eye's and 2. the major networks like FOX and msnbc are running smear campaigns to try to downplay his OBVIOUS support, going as far as to call someone else the winner of polls when their own numbers and percentages say otherwise.

The only other person I would have voted for would have been Mike Gravel if he didn't just accept money from big tobacco and alcohol.

I'm a constitutionalist, EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE running, just like our current government, will continue to wipe their *** with our rights while people stand buy and allow it to happen(except Ron Paul), do you guys even realize bush outlawed war protest 9 days ago?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug3sjs6OwgI

This is just an example of how the media is controlling the information we receive, they cut the caller off and majority of Americans don't even know this has happened.

[hoverbike]

If someone like obama or Hilary or any other Republican but Ron Paul is elected this country will find itself in even deeper **** than it already is. The ONLY thing that is stopping Ron Paul from gaining popularity is 1. The assumption that since he is in the republican party he is **** in any democrats eye's and 2. the major networks like FOX and msnbc are running smear campaigns to try to downplay his OBVIOUS support, going as far as to call someone else the winner of polls when their own numbers and percentages say otherwise.

The only other person I would have voted for would have been Mike Gravel if he didn't just accept money from big tobacco and alcohol.

I'm a constitutionalist, EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE running, just like our current government, will continue to wipe their *** with our rights while people stand buy and allow it to happen(except Ron Paul), do you guys even realize bush outlawed war protest 2 days ago?

Quoted for the truth. You should also check the thread about the Congressman who wanted to see the plans after a terror attack, but was denied, if you haven't looked at it yet.

[slowfaller]

Spreading the word of Dr. Ron Paul to everyone I can. Even slapped the bumper sticker on my ride hoping someone sees it and looks him up.

Anyone seen Aaron Russo's film "America: Freedom to Fascism"?

[hgmaster]

I must say, I agree more with him than against. His views on Pro-life are slightly narrow minded. I am Pro-life as well but also Anti back ally abortions. He opposes universal health care, but a change is needed. He's anti war on drugs, thats a major plus. He seems like an alright dude if you listen to him speak. All this matters not though, politicians have always let the American people down, so he could just be full of it.


*edit*I like him in this interview.
http://www.youtube.com/v/V3Kuf9a4SQ4

[janenba352]

I'm voting Ron Paul, I agree with his belief that we need to go back and follow the constitution.

[Leonardo856]

Do you really want another Republican?
Can you even call Ron Paul a Republican?

[Tenchi]

Ron Paul is seventy years old, he appears haggard and his voice makes him sound like a fat shrew. I respect him for his positions (and for the fact that, being a Republican, he's so forthcoming about his convictions), but he just won't make the cut. The Republicans will either nominate Romney and lose by a wide margin or nominate Giuliani and lose by a less wide, but still hefty margin.

[jakncoke]

I don't agree with some of the things he wants to do and if he's on the final ballot, I will register myself to vote for someone else.

[Ironmantrunx]

I actually saw Ron on Bill Maher first then proceed to watch him more intently on several debates. I love his ideas, I feel he has voted with a brain, and not by what party he is affiliated.

Ron Paul voted against the Patriot Act, opposes the draft, and pushes the re-introduction of the gold standard.

Good ideas, its shame the rest of Congress are a bunch of sheep. You say terriorist They bend over. Somehow having a brain means being a *****.

Anyway back on topic, I thought Ron has some good ideas, but I do have to agree that he unfortauntly won't be in the election very long because you can't tell the truth to the American Public you have to tell them what they want to hear. And all they want to hear is easy answers, because they are stupid.

Good luck to Ron if he stays on the Ballot, and continue to speak the way he has in the past maybe he will have my vote. I hate republicans but Ron Paul aint to bad.

[Ironmantrunx]

I have rescend my earlier comments. I have begun to read his stance on several items, and now have to say unfortauntly I would not vote him (back to crappy Democratic A, B or C, but atleast their not Republicans.)

The issues I feel he is not correct on or atleast a couple of them are below:
Strongly Pro-life (he intends to get Roe v. Wade overturned) I can not vote for someone with this stance as it is completely on the other side from mine.

He has long advocated ending the federal income tax and reducing government spending by abolishing most federal agencie: Again this stance is just plain wrong, taxes are a neccesary evil to provide neccesites for the people who need them. Making people pay no taxes (who would save the most money rich people) will not make the difference between a family not being able to eat because WIC was taken away from the parents. I think this is harsh and unrealistic if best, at worst morally corrupt.

He favors withdrawal from the United Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) (UN): This is foolish, the UN is generally a peaceful, and an important group. Hense they didn't go into Iraq with us because it was the wrong decision. We need to stay out of other people's affairs but isolationism is not the correct way to accomplish that.

Those are a couple of things that I found that I just can't get behind. I will not stop their but their was a few more.

I think Ron Paul has some good ideas that are clear, concise, and correct, but the ignorance for other items is way beyond what should be in president.

[shadow26]

Exactly. So even if he's a great guy and has great ideas, he can't win and for that reason alone, you shouldn't vote for him in any primary because you will be taking votes away from a viable candidate.

That's not the way to vote. you vote for who you want in office.
Why do third parties even exist?

taking votes away from a candidate is sometimes the point anyways. If you're not satisfied, then don't vote for them. vote for someone else.

[THEREALNEXTGEN]

I have rescend my earlier comments. I have begun to read his stance on several items, and now have to say unfortauntly I would not vote him (back to crappy Democratic A, B or C, but atleast their not Republicans.)

The issues I feel he is not correct on or atleast a couple of them are below:
Strongly Pro-life (he intends to get Roe v. Wade overturned) I can not vote for someone with this stance as it is completely on the other side from mine.

He has long advocated ending the federal income tax and reducing government spending by abolishing most federal agencie: Again this stance is just plain wrong, taxes are a neccesary evil to provide neccesites for the people who need them. Making people pay no taxes (who would save the most money rich people) will not make the difference between a family not being able to eat because WIC was taken away from the parents. I think this is harsh and unrealistic if best, at worst morally corrupt.

He favors withdrawal from the United Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) (UN): This is foolish, the UN is generally a peaceful, and an important group. Hense they didn't go into Iraq with us because it was the wrong decision. We need to stay out of other people's affairs but isolationism is not the correct way to accomplish that.

Those are a couple of things that I found that I just can't get behind. I will not stop their but their was a few more.

I think Ron Paul has some good ideas that are clear, concise, and correct, but the ignorance for other items is way beyond what should be in president.



I support Ron Paul because he is a champion of the Constitution. Being a politics major, I have come to see candidates for public office in a new sense. Ron Paul is a true conservative in the Founders' sense, not one of the liberalized conservatives that we have across America today due to the Progressives. I strongly dislike progressivism for policies that went beyond reforming government and into creating a state where the government is responsible for facilitating the realization of people's spirit of freedom. We have created a state of dependency and Ron Paul wants to go back to individualism and hands off government like the Founders intended.

The whole Roe vs Wade controversy, I'm going to say it, abortion is murder, but the government can't stop it. Ron Paul is leaving it more to the state to fix. It is not a Federal concern.

Federal income tax doesn't pay the WIC, the state takes care of that. Our federal income tax is unconstitutional when you read Article I of the Constitution which doesn't allow for an unapportioned tax on the American people. The income tax pays basically our debt to the Federal Reserve and government actions. The government spends before taxes ever get to them. If we slash the income tax we will still be at 2000-01 spending levels; the income tax is just 1/3 of government revenue and spending.

Leaving the UN isn't the best idea, but leaving other organizations would be wise, since the Founders advised no entangling alliances. The UN is a crock anyway, so I don't think it would matter. Ron Paul isn't supporting Isolationism, he's supporting non-Interventionism like the Founders outlined.

The Constitution is the only way to follow so Ron Paul all the way in 2008.

[Ironmantrunx]

I support Ron Paul because he is a champion of the Constitution. Being a politics major, I have come to see candidates for public office in a new sense. Ron Paul is a true conservative in the Founders' sense, not one of the liberalized conservatives that we have across America today due to the Progressives. I strongly dislike progressivism for policies that went beyond reforming government and into creating a state where the government is responsible for facilitating the realization of people's spirit of freedom. We have created a state of dependency and Ron Paul wants to go back to individualism and hands off government like the Founders intended.

The whole Roe vs Wade controversy, I'm going to say it, abortion is murder, but the government can't stop it. Ron Paul is leaving it more to the state to fix. It is not a Federal concern.

Federal income tax doesn't pay the WIC, the state takes care of that. Our federal income tax is unconstitutional when you read Article I of the Constitution which doesn't allow for an unapportioned tax on the American people. The income tax pays basically our debt to the Federal Reserve and government actions. The government spends before taxes ever get to them. If we slash the income tax we will still be at 2000-01 spending levels; the income tax is just 1/3 of government revenue and spending.

Leaving the UN isn't the best idea, but leaving other organizations would be wise, since the Founders advised no entangling alliances. The UN is a crock anyway, so I don't think it would matter. Ron Paul isn't supporting Isolationism, he's supporting non-Interventionism like the Founders outlined.

The Constitution is the only way to follow so Ron Paul all the way in 2008.


While I appreciate your statement, and some of it does ring true.

While his ideal stance is one of a constitutional defender it seems that though he has many bright ideas. He seems very zealotish on some of these topics.

As far Pro-choice/Pro-life that is a matter of personal opinion and I respect your stance on it, but at the same time in the literature I have read thus far I have not found that he feels it's for the state legislature to decide. If you can provide me a source I would be more than happy to re-evaluate this thought. If he feels states should decide for themselves I can compromise on whether or not I can tolerate his position on this. From what I have read as, I said it seems he would like to overturn the federal case in its entirety. This is not a government decision in my opinion. I do not feel they have a hand in the say of the individual, and someone that truly is for individual rights, and a constitutional defender I feel would not attempt to deny a right no matter what their personal belief on this subject is.

You are correct that Federal Taxes does not cover programs such as this, I used it primarily as an example that people may be familiar with. Though states receive a great deal of funding from the federal budget this budget is brought in to schools and programs for people who need them. Also Ron Paul is for universal health care. I have not seen a readings on how he plans to fund schools, and his health care plan with a severely cut budget due to the cut of federal taxes he proposes. He seems to wants to have (using a bad but age old adage) cake and eat it too. You can not cut federal income, and output a large financial investment as improved schools or universal health care. Both Health Care and his stance on improving schools can not be accomplished with State and the other parts of the federal income. As I said his ideas are excellent, but his methods I don't fully grasp on how they would work. I see your point of reducing spending, but what are we taking the money from to make this system work. The income tax may go to the deficit as you say, I am unsure on that point, but what will in place go in the income taxes place to attempt to pay for the deficit that is currently in place.

The UN at times has been corrupt but as any large agency they all have their moments where they have done the correct things. I do like Ron Paul's stance on keeping more out of other countries problems, I think he takes it a step to far. We should not get involved in other's wars but at the same time we can blindly ignore thinking about other countries or stop communications with the world through the many organizations that facilitate world speech, we must also help to create diplomatic solutions with these organizations. The UN aids in this process a great deal as well as other large world organizations.

Again if you can provide me readings that he has published or spoken on these issues I would greatly appreciate the reading, but as of this moment I was not able to find the documentation for these items. (I apologize if the grammar is wrong in this post, but at work I don’t have time to proofread hah)

[lav01]

ive seen that film and its pretty good. its on you tube btw.

ron paul is the closest thing to an honest politician that we have. you may not agree with his views, but generally he is not lying to you. that alone would get him my vote.

otoh, i dont see how he would even get the nomination.

[Jakibikajasy]

I'm with Ron Paul all the way. Unfortunately he's a Libertarian at heart and won't get the Republican nomination.

[BlindSight]

I'm for Ron Paul, donated as much as I could to his campaign. (*hint hint, you should as well)

I'm with Ron Paul all the way. Unfortunately he's a Libertarian at heart and won't get the Republican nomination.

If he does not get the nomination, then he will just run as an Independent. His campaign has been to successful and romantic to just stop like that.

His honesty, sincerity, and refreshing answers really reaches most Americans. It is a shame the media dismisses him and tries to tear his name.

All this matters not though, politicians have always let the American people down, so he could just be full of it.

I know what you mean, but it is very easy to distinguish Dr. Paul from the rest, in just about every way.

[Vulgotha]

I agree with all of his views but one: The war in Iraq....

I would totally cast my vote his way if it weren't for that one issue.... So until I see a change or he becomes the presidential nominee (Unlikely) I'm going with either Thompson or Huckabee (Chuck Norris ftw).

I like the Fair tax.

[GRX Dragon]

I agree with all of his views but one: The war in Iraq....

I would totally cast my vote his way if it weren't for that one issue.... So until I see a change or he becomes the presidential nominee (Unlikely) I'm going with either Thompson or Huckabee (Chuck Norris ftw).

I like the Fair tax.


I'll agree with both Huckabee and Ron Paul. Thompson, however, disappoints me. I can see myself voting for Huckabee or Romney.