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Major Ocelot
July 4th, 2008, 05:49 AM
Well I after having beyond the worst luck with my previous 360(s) I decided to give it my 8th and final shot.
For those who don't know (or haven't heard my whining on the forums) my previous Xbox conked out on me 7 times consecutively and on its final run it scratched 4 out of 6 my games beyond playability. So you could understand my seething hatred for all things MS and Indian call centers (Never calling MS 'help' service again, I can tell you that much.).
But I digress, so I saw an ad on TV 2 days ago showing a $278 (aus) 360 Arcade pack, comes with controller and memory chip etc.
Went around stores, all sold out. Until finally after hours I found 1 last one, snapped it up like no ones business. I saw a pretty dero family gunning for it to, thank god for my lanky frame.
But this morning guess what's in my email Inbox. Its a message from a TradingPost seller I had made an offer to the other day saying he would like to do the deal. I had made really lowball offer of $300 for a month old 360 pro pack that not only has all the cables etc but it comes with games too. Including GTA IV and Guitar Hero III with the GH controller, plus more games. This 360 also had a BenQ drive and the falcon chips in it, as well as HDMI.
All I could do was stare :shock:.......

After all the BS of running around Victoria and pushing passed overweight bogans to get to the electronic department, after all the greasy looks I got from fat clerks with too much make up on, after pretty much being farted on by a pensioner I have a much better deal.

So I have since braved Big W a final time to returned the Arcade pack and have the go ahead to pick up this other pack today.
I don't think I've ever put so much physical effort into getting a console before, let alone a 360.
Yes I do plan on flashing the DVD drive, in my eyes I've earned it after all the BS I've been through. If anyone objects then I dare you to stay sane after what I went through. Also I have since learned of Xclamp etc. So voiding warranty is not an issue with me, besides like I said earlier I'm never dealing with MS support ever again.

So yeah that's my epic saga on how I got a 360, and I pray this is the final chapter. If it conks out on me through RROD, then I'm seriously boycotting MS and even getting MAC. I don't care otherwise.

I plan on spray painting the box black and doing a 'Grin Reaper' piece on it as well (its my favorite Banksy work ever, if not any graffiti) I also plan on painting blood dripping from the Rings of Light, just because its ironic for me.
I'll post some pics when I'm done with it to see what you think.
Well this was just a huge block of text to read, but I just wanted peeps to know and have it out there for members like Fedos, as I know they just think I'm a fanboi. :snicker

Cheers, feel free to respond with your own tales of hate and ordeal if you want, regardless the console.

Black02SLPSS
July 4th, 2008, 06:37 AM
Your a very dedicated individual. Personally I dont have a 360 but I can tell you that I would have boycotted them after my second console died due to the RROD. I wouldnt have that sort of tolerance a piece of hardware that kept dying on me. However I do hope this one works out for you and lasts for a good long while.

Major Ocelot
July 4th, 2008, 07:16 AM
Cheers man. I wouldn't really say that I'm dedicated to MS at all, in fact I am quite the opposite. It's just that I spent my own money on it, and I expect what I buy to retain an aspect of quality.
But although the 360 is the worst built console ever, this is my own (albeit biased) opinion, it has some JRPG's that desire and I am an otaku whatever console has the RPG's I will have to own it.
I know that the PS3 will get the better RPG's in the future, but seeing as I can get average RPG's now I may as well.
Plus Mass Effect begs me to play it as well as Fable 2.

sorrow880
July 4th, 2008, 07:25 AM
Holy crap! I had no idea you went through THAT many 360's Major! I wouldn't have the patience or forgiveness you have.

Eitherway good luck and make sure you play Lost Odyssey soon (just in case it dies on you again, lol)...it's a lot of fun. And Tales of Vesperia and Infinite Undiscovery are coming soon.

tmacfan4321
July 4th, 2008, 07:31 AM
Use some of the painting tutorials on Xbox-Scene if you want a really well done job. Just spraying the outside won't look great. Get yourself some Krylon Fusion as well.

Major Ocelot
July 4th, 2008, 07:31 AM
Hah so you caved man? The only reason I considered getting it again was because of the cheap price, even then I was a bit cautious.
I've played through LO for the most part at my cousins, I thought it was reealy derivative of FF:IV, considering the characters and some of the plot points. The two kids for instance and Sed? Please. Lol.
I plan on having a binge of RPG's this weekend and I'm playing through LO (or should I say reading through :P) and what ever else I can find at the rentals like Mass Effect or something.
Use some of the painting tutorials on Xbox-Scene if you want a really well done job. Just spraying the outside won't look great. Get yourself some Krylon Fusion as well.I've been a stencil/graffiti artist for a few years now so I know what I'm doing in that respect. Thanks heaps for the concern though and cheers for the site, I will definitely be checking it out.
I'm going to paint the Grin Reaper on though, too small to spray the details I want.

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/banksy_grin_reaper_print.jpg

Best pic I could find, its awesome eh? ;)

sorrow880
July 4th, 2008, 07:49 AM
Hah so you caved man? The only reason I considered getting it again was because of the cheap price, even then I was a bit cautious.
I've played through LO for the most part at my cousins, I thought it was reealy derivative of FF:IV, considering the characters and some of the plot points. The two kids for instance and Sed? Please. Lol.
I plan on having a binge of RPG's this weekend and I'm playing through LO (or should I say reading through :P) and what ever else I can find at the rentals like Mass Effect or something.



I still prefer to play my games on ps3, but I go where the JRPG's are at. And for NOW they're not on the ps3...hopefully some will be coming in the future.

I still haven't played Eternal Sonata yet so that may be my next game on the 360...I didn't really care too much for Blue Dragon...(had some major faults imo, but I won't go into them here).

I did end up getting MGS4 for my ps3, but haven't played it yet because I'm hoping they announce Trophy support for it soon. If I don't hear something by the end of E3, I'll probably just play it.

Major Ocelot
July 4th, 2008, 04:31 PM
I still prefer to play my games on ps3, but I go where the JRPG's are at. And for NOW they're not on the ps3...hopefully some will be coming in the future.

I still haven't played Eternal Sonata yet so that may be my next game on the 360...I didn't really care too much for Blue Dragon...(had some major faults imo, but I won't go into them here).

I did end up getting MGS4 for my ps3, but haven't played it yet because I'm hoping they announce Trophy support for it soon. If I don't hear something by the end of E3, I'll probably just play it.
Dude play it now, there are so many unlockables you will be playing it more than once I assure you. I wouldn't count on any Trophies coming by E3 seeing as 2.4 got pulled.

So did you recently just get your 360 or what? Also, how long did it take you to clock Lost Odyssey? I'm in the mood for a talky RPG at the moment and that one just fits the bill.

J3ff3
July 4th, 2008, 10:39 PM
Well I after having beyond the worst luck with my previous 360(s) I decided to give it my 8th and final shot.
For those who don't know (or haven't heard my whining on the forums) my previous Xbox conked out on me 7 times consecutively and on its final run it scratched 4 out of 6 my games beyond playability. So you could understand my seething hatred for all things MS and Indian call centers (Never calling MS 'help' service again, I can tell you that much.).

Not really, although I am confused why you put more games into a console that was scratching games. Hardly their fault.

And with all your 'modding' / spray painting I wouldn't be surprised if this one breaks too....

darky89
July 5th, 2008, 12:24 AM
I hope that isn't your last ordeal. Don't get me wrong, that's terribly unlucky but that's already one hell of a story, and if it gets any worse you could make a movie.

"My struggle" by Major Ocelot :D

tmacfan4321
July 5th, 2008, 01:47 AM
Not really, although I am confused why you put more games into a console that was scratching games. Hardly their fault.

And with all your 'modding' / spray painting I wouldn't be surprised if this one breaks too....
LOL, modding the 360 makes it into something far better than Microsoft could have ever dreamed of.

mickice
July 5th, 2008, 01:51 AM
Hey Major, I never realised your an Aussie.

I'm getting the Xbox 360 arcade pack too.

$278 what was Big W thinking?... Our shop was out of stock, but when they get some in it's still the $278 price tag.

Carsonal
July 5th, 2008, 05:17 AM
I guess you're just **** out of luck with the xboxes

old_school_gamer
July 5th, 2008, 05:47 AM
I know all about trouble with the 360. I'm currently on my 5th unit(got a FALCON now)and this one seems like it's much more stable. It runs exponentially cooler, and quieter compared to my others. Heat is the 360's nemesis, so do yourself a favor and try to find an Intec Turbo Cooler. It runs off it's own power supply, and moves a ton more air in, and out of the console. Keeps it very cool, which should lead to extended reliability. Good luck on this though bro, sounds like you need it.

Major Ocelot
July 5th, 2008, 06:04 AM
Not really, although I am confused why you put more games into a console that was scratching games. Hardly their fault.

And with all your 'modding' / spray painting I wouldn't be surprised if this one breaks too....
The difference between you an me it seems is I'm not giving MS employees BJ's. Seriously though, how could you not be pissed at a company after their wonderful, next-gen console died that many times?
With the games, it wasn't that I put 4 games in consecutively in the one system, this was a crappy cycle of; when the RROD was 'fixed' the drive was faulty. So in reality I had to call customer service almost double.
I don't blame myself for that, why the hell should I? It was their own stupid decision not to put padding in the drive. That's pretty much asking for games to be destroyed, I didn't learn about this until afterwards of cause.
Also all this 'modding' implying I'm doing more than flashing the drive. It's not that hard, I've done it for my friend and it works fine and you have to be at like 1 IQ to lead to bricking the system.
How will spray paint 'break' the system? It's a coating of paint on the outside of the casing of the system. I bet you thought I was going to do it with the casing still attached to the console. :-| Anyway...
I hope that isn't your last ordeal. Don't get me wrong, that's terribly unlucky but that's already one hell of a story, and if it gets any worse you could make a movie.

"My struggle" by Major Ocelot :grin:
Yeah I am hoping this will be one of those, ride off into the sunset types of stories where everything works out for the best.
I'm working to be in the movie business when I get older so you never know, the story is already better than half the dross being released at the moment.
My Struggle could a good suspense/drama thriller, but if I stuck with the 8th Circle of Hell tag I reckon I could have a pretty good horror flick going. Based on a true story and all that to. :snicker
Hey Major, I never realised your an Aussie.

I'm getting the Xbox 360 arcade pack too.

$278 what was Big W thinking?... Our shop was out of stock, but when they get some in it's still the $278 price tag.
Yep, I'm an Aussie. I'm fairly sure I've told you this though. :dunce :P
It's actually a pretty small world after all, Carsonal here is from Geelong, apparently, which is where I hail from.
It was a pretty hefty price slash though eh? Every other store has them going for like $399. You work at Big W or something?

Rareware
July 5th, 2008, 06:07 AM
Have you modded the case and/or hardware on all of the consoles that have RROD'd on you?

Major Ocelot
July 5th, 2008, 06:27 AM
Have you modded the case and/or hardware on all of the consoles that have RROD'd on you?
Nah, never mine. This all happened pretty much when the 360 released and continued months afterward. It's been years now as I refused to get anything other than what they are calling the 'Falcon' chipset now. That and a BenQ drive.
I hate white consoles so I wanted to make this one black and add a little bit of my own flair to it as well, and I'm flashing the drive for obvious reasons. 8)

mickice
July 5th, 2008, 07:23 AM
Yep, I'm an Aussie. I'm fairly sure I've told you this though. :dunce :P
It's actually a pretty small world after all, Carsonal here is from Geelong, apparently, which is where I hail from.
It was a pretty hefty price slash though eh? Every other store has them going for like $399. You work at Big W or something?

No, just that me and my older brother saw the ad on the TV and went to go buy one... out of stock as expected. We walked into GAME and we asked if they would price match and the guy just laughed at us, lol.

Zabuza
July 5th, 2008, 07:36 AM
I was lucky to have gotten a pretty decent 360 that hasn't broken yet even after I flashed it. Are you gonna have to do some soldering on your console? I had the 78 rom version which was the last one that could be easily flashed through the computer. But I hear the newer 360s aren't quite so easy to flash unless you're good at soldering. Then again I might be wrong since they probably came up with an easier way to do it since then.

Major Ocelot
July 5th, 2008, 10:24 AM
No soldering involved just have to open up the Xbox and the Computer. You need a certain PCI port for it as well. Only costs about $12 though.

admartian
July 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM
I'm with darky89, you should definitely write a book or move. :D

But sheesh! That's a lot of 360s, I'd hate to see the world's graveyard of 360s. I would've given up after my 3rd one.

You should definitiely get Mass Effect though. It's an excellent game, and can be as deep as you want.

Major Ocelot
July 6th, 2008, 02:10 AM
I'm with darky89, you should definitely write a book or move. :D

But sheesh! That's a lot of 360s, I'd hate to see the world's graveyard of 360s. I would've given up after my 3rd one.

You should definitiely get Mass Effect though. It's an excellent game, and can be as deep as you want.
Yeah it is quite a few isn't it. I'm fairly stubborn with things that I pay with my own money as I don't have a full job, so my income it quite sparse. I did finally give up on the 7th though, started anew this week.
Mass Effect looked pretty good, RPG-wise, the combat segments looked pretty crappy but then again so were KOTOR's if you look back. I heard the elevators are hell though.

P.S Loving the Addy-M in your sig :mrgreen: I should try and fit Major Oh or Major Oh Damn! in, I don't think I can I'm full at the moment.

admartian
July 6th, 2008, 02:51 AM
Yeah it is quite a few isn't it. I'm fairly stubborn with things that I pay with my own money as I don't have a full job, so my income it quite sparse. I did finally give up on the 7th though, started anew this week.
Mass Effect looked pretty good, RPG-wise, the combat segments looked pretty crappy but then again so were KOTOR's if you look back. I heard the elevators are hell though.

P.S Loving the Addy-M in your sig :mrgreen: I should try and fit Major Oh or Major Oh Damn! in, I don't think I can I'm full at the moment.

I know how you feel about that. I'm pretty protective about my things as well.

As per the elevators, they're not really that bad. They're annoying, but I usually take that time to have a bit of a snack and swig on the 'ol drink. ;)

Haha thanks. Lol at being full. I reckon we should subscribe (although I'd have to wait where to get the funds from) - but what's stopping me is the "PAYPAL" only option.

When I do, expect laughs galore on my sig. ;)

mynd
July 6th, 2008, 04:36 AM
Just a question, has each Xbox been in the same envirionment, As in the same house everytime, 8 xbox 's makes me believe it's envioronmental.

And just to really annoy you, not one scatched disk, or RROD, PAL 360, 2 year's old :)
And I've got 3 kids who give it heaps.

Major Ocelot
July 6th, 2008, 05:32 AM
Well if I could slap you I could, Mynd but I can't :D
Nah they were all in the same environment, being an elevated area beside the TV. Fully ventilated and the like, no obstructions what so ever and nothing near it either.
I just kept getting sent sh*ithouse refurbs is all I guess.
The new Falcon is running fine though at the moment, and almost as quietly as my old PS2, not as loud as it used to but not PS3 quite.
So, so far so good but I'll shut up now I don't want to jinx it. :D

Carsonal
July 6th, 2008, 06:37 AM
Well if I could slap you I could, Mynd but I can't :D
Nah they were all in the same environment, being an elevated area beside the TV. Fully ventilated and the like, no obstructions what so ever and nothing near it either.
I just kept getting sent sh*ithouse refurbs is all I guess.
The new Falcon is running fine though at the moment, and almost as quietly as my old PS2, not as loud as it used to but not PS3 quite.
So, so far so good but I'll shut up now I don't want to jinx it. :D

Nah, what you got were a whole bunch of "revivals", not repairs.
Prior to around July 2007, anyone sending away a system for repair would be getting back a system that was capable of running, but lacked the ability to fully regulate its heat.
So it eventually would just die again.

The AU arcades all seem to be made in 08, which would mean they're safe.

A7MAD
July 6th, 2008, 07:34 AM
I seen the X360 Arcade for $278 @ Big W when I went in on Thursday, I picked me up a 20Gb HDD for my Arcade I got for free a few months ago, cheap imo considering it was $80aud for the HDD.

They're going to sell well from the looks of things, the Wii is still $388aud!
No price drop on the Triple yet @ $678aud.

Major Ocelot
July 6th, 2008, 07:46 AM
Considering it came out last year a $1000 to $678 dollar price drop is pretty amazing for the PS3.

A7MAD
July 6th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Considering it came out last year a $1000 to $678 dollar price drop is pretty amazing for the PS3.

$1,000 was for the 60Gb with PS2 b/c, the 40Gb has never dropped in price at the retail level... The 40Gb is worth $600aud imo and that's what I paid for mine @ discount.

Major Ocelot
July 6th, 2008, 08:10 AM
Yeah well in my eyes a PS3 is a PS3, you can now play PS3 games for $678 as opposed to $1000.
I went halves with my parents on a 60Gb version, so it was $500 for me. The PAL versions have gimped b/c anyway and I still use my PS2 because it's chipped.

A7MAD
July 6th, 2008, 09:08 AM
Well I agree, a PS3 is a PS3 but a 60Gb $1,000 PS3 is not a 40Gb $678 PS3 now is it? It was misleading so I replied.

Yeah PS2 with a modchip, we all ripped them another one with modchips here :lol: :)

Major Ocelot
July 6th, 2008, 10:33 AM
I was just saying though, if you are only in it to play bare bones PS3 games, it no longer costs $1000 but $678.

Just saw another ad, $349 for Arcades now I think. That is across the board too, but I still think Big W are sticking with $278 as when I rang they said they were getting a new shipment late July for the same price. That's a $50 price drop so it ain't bad.

mynd
July 6th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Well if I could slap you I could, Mynd but I can't :D
Nah they were all in the same environment, being an elevated area beside the TV. Fully ventilated and the like, no obstructions what so ever and nothing near it either.
I just kept getting sent sh*ithouse refurbs is all I guess.
The new Falcon is running fine though at the moment, and almost as quietly as my old PS2, not as loud as it used to but not PS3 quite.
So, so far so good but I'll shut up now I don't want to jinx it. :D

Might be something out of your control, we had a PC that kept crapping itself at one our sites, turned out it was the power, downstairs neighbours had some heavy duty lathes kicking in and causing al sort of whacky spikes/surges.

Or could be the aliens next door :)

Major Ocelot
July 6th, 2008, 01:16 PM
Yeah, must be aliens. That other stuff is coincidence. :D

Sparc
July 6th, 2008, 04:16 PM
Did you have 8 RROD's? If so then you shouldn't have spent another cent. You could have got each one replaced surely.

In any case - best of luck.

SerinousTSE
July 6th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Eight times? Damn. That's some crazy stuff. What is the probability of that... Man, you should try the lottery, or something.

Major Ocelot
July 6th, 2008, 04:33 PM
RROD 7 times now on my 8th, new slate and all that. 7 might actually be the lucky number. 0_o

THUGGEDOUT
July 6th, 2008, 05:26 PM
When you first bought your 360 or even with this new one, were you able to purchase some sort of extended warranty plan where you can just take it in and get a straight out exchange?

I have a 2 yr. warranty on my consoles so if anything happens they get swapped out for new ones. It's been worth it so far as at just the hint of my Arcade playing up,I swapped it for a new one, even though I realized there was nothing wrong with it...

Susperium
July 6th, 2008, 05:44 PM
Wow, best of luck to you and your new 360. You will soon loose that feeling of will it turn on today once you have had it for a while. I got the 360 here in England day of release and had the RROD once, so sent it off to get fixed and is now all fine again :)

Cant wait to see the pics too when you have painted it, sounds really cool ^^

Galvanise_
July 6th, 2008, 05:59 PM
"My struggle" by Major Ocelot :D

Mein Kampf? Thats the title of a certain book containing two retrospectives that has sold millions of copies.