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Ishimaru Kaito
July 3rd, 2008, 05:34 PM
I found this article in which Sony denies retro-trophy support if it has been posted already please close

As was announced Monday, today saw the launch of the v2.40 firmware update for the PlayStation 3. The long-awaited update--previewed by GameSpot Hardware--adds the ability to access the console's XrossMediaBar (XMB) and use select features from it in-game. (Players can also access other XMB features directly, but will have to quit gameplay.) It also came alongside a slight tweak to the PlayStation Store, which adds list views and caches images, preventing the need to load previously viewed art assets each time one visits the store.

PS3 Firmware 2.40 Demo

Eric Lempel shows off how trophies and the in-game XMB will work.
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The v2.40 update will also launch the long-awaited trophy system, the PS3's answer to Xbox 360 Achievements. Though every game for Microsoft's console bestows awards, only three already-released first-party PS3 games--PAIN, Warhawk, and Super Stardust HD--will get the feature this week in the form of patches.

Sony also announced this week that a spate of upcoming titles will sport trophies from the get-go, including LittleBigPlanet, MotorStorm Pacific Rift, NBA 09, PixelJunk Eden, Resistance 2, and SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation. Speaking with GameSpot, director of PlayStation Network Eric Lempel also said that eventually, all new releases for the PS3--both first-party and third-party--would have trophies.

However, Sony today refuted a spate of online reports claiming all past, present, and future PS3 games would one day get trophies, dashing hopes that Lair completionists would be rewarded for revisiting their efforts. As Sony previously stated, it is putting the onus onto both third-party publishers and its own internal studios as to whether they want to take the time to add trophies to games already on the market.

While Konami hasn't said whether or not it will add trophies to its multiplatinum Metal Gear Solid 4, Sony today confirmed that a pair of PS3 hits--Electronic Arts' Burnout Paradise and Sony's own Uncharted Drake's Fortune--would soon be patched with their own awards. No date for either update has yet been set, with Sony saying both will get patched "soon."

The official Web site of Burnout Paradise's developer, EA-owned Criterion Games, also revealed the patch will be the first update to retroactively award trophies automatically. "Trophies will be awarded based on your progress in your existing save game," the developer said in a statement. "When the update arrives the trophies you have earned will reflect the progress you've made in the game at that time (so you won't have to replay the game again to earn trophies)."

Speaking to GameSpot last week, Lempel indicated no PS3 games would be awarded trophies retroactively, and no other such patches have been announced. It appears that Criterion was able to include the functionality by planning ahead for trophies' inclusion. "We can reveal that this is why your Burnout Paradise save game has always been locked to your PlayStation Network id--so we could guarantee that when PlayStation Trophies arrived that your save game would reflect your progress," the developer stated.

Unfortunately, it appears as if the v2.40 update wasn't available for long. A rash of complaints on the official PlayStation message boards claim the heavily anticipated update caused many PS3s to lock up when owners attempt to load a game. The problem does not appear to be exclusive to an individual hardware model, as owners of 40GB, 60GB, and 80GB consoles have all reported problems.

Sony has not yet responded to GameSpot's request for clarification or comment, but has apparently taken action by pulling the update from the PlayStation Network. Following reports from forum-goers, GameSpot attempted to download the v2.40 to a PS3 running v2.36 firmware--only to find the update is no longer available.

so what do you think, at least burnout is going retro

webshark
July 3rd, 2008, 05:44 PM
when had they ever implied that they were going to retroactively give trophies? from what i had seen it was ALWAYS understood that you would have to do things over to get the trophies.

Bravo9zero
July 4th, 2008, 12:10 AM
I'm really glad trophies aren't retroactive, I would of been pissed off if i had all trophies in SSHD
Without doing anything,

Collecting them is fun and quite additive!

Tyrien
July 4th, 2008, 12:42 AM
Trophies can't really be retroactive anyway.

Take SSDHD for example, one of the trophies is stay alive for longer than 45 seconds without using boost, gun, or bomb in survival. How is your game save going to know you've done that?

keefy
July 4th, 2008, 12:52 AM
When uncharted is patched I will be playign that again :)

Dasimpse
July 4th, 2008, 09:45 AM
so 2.40 has been pulled??

Shadownet46
July 4th, 2008, 09:19 PM
This is same reason DMC4 should get trophies, since achievements are locked to the player's PSN id...

Nakatomi Uk
July 4th, 2008, 09:41 PM
Next week the Cagney update for Burnout Paradise is out and supposed to get trophies with that and there going to be retroactive so anything you have already done they'll unlock.

Thats a good thing cause for 1 reason I ain't going round finding 400 smashed fences, 120 billboards, 50 super jumps again thats for sure that took me ages I mean I've got a back up save with them just completed nothing else. But on my current file I have 36/60 done so I'm going to leave it to be honest the trophies may also include some online ones which I hope.

Forbiden
July 4th, 2008, 09:45 PM
Next week the Cagney update for Burnout Paradise is out and supposed to get trophies with that and there going to be retroactive so anything you have already done they'll unlock.


Wrong, it has (suposedly) been confirmed that the Cagney update won't include trophies for Burnout Paradise, a future patch will bring them.

Shadownet46
July 4th, 2008, 09:47 PM
huh? I thought it was supposed to be the same update....
I need more trophies...... :/

scaramanga1973
July 4th, 2008, 09:48 PM
I believe that it is the 'Davis' update that will have trophies.....I thinkit is due in the fall

Shadownet46
July 4th, 2008, 09:52 PM
>___________________>
[insert ranting complaint here]

T-Dogg400
July 4th, 2008, 10:56 PM
I just wait for the big games of trophies to be released.

Ishimaru Kaito
July 4th, 2008, 11:16 PM
well when Uncharted gets trophies i will play that game will i pass out. i hope it has alot of things to get.

yeah we have to wait for the next Burnout update to get the trophies, gives me more time

Nakatomi Uk
July 5th, 2008, 01:00 PM
Uncharted is 1 of the best games on PS3 it's beautiful looking (when in HD) there's plenty of action and the story is just excellent I am getting it for my collection. As a reward system in it like Rachet & Clank do a certain thing for what it's worth like 1 thing could be worth 10 points adds up to 1000.

These unlock extra like cheats and videos and custom character skins to play during game.

Shadownet46
July 5th, 2008, 01:32 PM
That's not how trophies work at all.....

Tyrien
July 5th, 2008, 02:44 PM
This is same reason DMC4 should get trophies, since achievements are locked to the player's PSN id...
Call capcom then.

huh? I thought it was supposed to be the same update....
I need more trophies...... :/
There won't be trophy patches until everyone can use them.

That's not how trophies work at all.....
Did he mention trophies once? Seems you either weren't paying attention or haven't played Ratchet or Uncharted.

Insomniac always has put their own "achievement" lists in games for fun, that give you points and unlock extra things. For example in Uncharted you can unlock a perk that will reverse the camera so everything on the left is now in the right and likewise.

Rangersmad92
July 5th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Did he mention trophies once? Seems you either weren't paying attention or haven't played Ratchet or Uncharted.

Insomniac always has put their own "achievement" lists in games for fun, that give you points and unlock extra things. For example in Uncharted you can unlock a perk that will reverse the camera so everything on the left is now in the right and likewise.

Insomniac didn't make Uncharted :???: It was Naughty Dog.

But yeah in Ratchet it is great what they have done. You get gold bolts and can use them to unlock skins, and you can get skill points which in turn unlocks other things like video's and big head mode :mrgreen:

Shadownet46
July 5th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Call capcom then.
Sure. Give me their number...


There won't be trophy patches until everyone can use them.
Did I say WHEN I expected it to come?

Did he mention trophies once? Seems you either weren't paying attention or haven't played Ratchet or Uncharted.
What's the name of the topic?

Insomniac always has put their own "achievement" lists in games for fun, that give you points and unlock extra things. For example in Uncharted you can unlock a perk that will reverse the camera so everything on the left is now in the right and likewise.
I know, I have those games. I doubt trophies will be the same as those achievements though.....

Instead of attacking me, come up with your own opinions...