Would you make killzone2 multiplatform,just to get Gears of War2 multiplatformed?

[Gambit_101]

The title says the question.latley iv bean hearing that people will do anything to get Gear of War 2 to be on the ps3, and making that sacrifice will be killzone 2. Any one agree or disagree to question?

[warstory]

no i wouldnt let them have gears IMO

[Genesis-]

No way in hell.KillZone 2 looks like the better game.

[admartian]

Even though both games I are going to be great, I wouldn't swap Killzone 2 for Gears. Simply because we've got quite a few 3ps-types of games already.

MGS4 & Uncharted are already awesome enough to not want Gears (no disrespect). I mean, if both of those games were simply average, then I would want to swap, but we already have our fair share of games like that.

Not to mention that the 360 already has a plethora of FPSs.

However, if the question was changed to say Mass Effect series - I'd probably give it a long hard look. :)

[3ncryptioncsta]

i would swap KZ2 for GoW2

[MiNiMaL_sAnItY]

Killzone 2 is designed specifically for the ps3, so i doubt it'd be made multiplat without a lot of coding effort(also, GG are first/second party devs to sony, IIRC). Gears on the other hand can be ported easily in comparison, what with it being based on UE3, but I doubt it'd be ported easily as well, because of the optimizations on the 360 platform for it and MS not wanting to lose a great monies franchise.

[P.S.3]

No way man. I will keep Killzone 2 thanks.

[TH3 GAM3]

There is a lot more work going into Killzone 2 so no I wouldn't trade it for GeOW2.

[iTz nAsTyY]

Ya i would cause you say that killzone 2 will be multi-platform so that means we get it to and gears of war 2? I would be up for that. Both games would be sick though. :)

[Vulgotha]

The "green team" can have Gears. Let the PS3 fans have KZ2.

Gears is nothing but overhyped to begin with. Gears 2 looks rather promising though... But nothing I'd trade KZ2 for.


Besides both games would have to be watered down if they were to become multiplats. So who wins in that scenario? Nobody.

[Gambit_101]

Ya i would cause you say that killzone 2 will be multi-platform so that means we get it to and gears of war 2? I would be up for that. Both games would be sick though. :)sorry i made a mistake i guess in the title.i ment if Gears went to multi too.

[Girugamesh]

Absolutely not. Gears 2 just caters to the hardcore American spazz so it doesn't exactly fit well with me. I'll take my much more immersive Killzone 2 any day.

[EVILPS3]

Hell no Killzone has been in development for like 200 years or something, I have high expectations, never liked Gears Of War anyway.

[DeanoIV]

Not at all because both MS and Sony have to have their own exclusives to make the hardcores happy and to make their console worthwhile. I do own both consoles so it's easy for me to say that but people should just buy a 360 if they want Gears 2.

[UK-Kane]

lol @ people "Keeping KZ".

I wasn't a massive fan of Gears, however i wouldn't mind it coming to PS3.


The more good games i can get my hands on the better.

[Minnzy]

For me to want either of them they'd have to make up for some of thier predacessors mistakes, First Killzone 2 will have to not be a console FPS :p And Geow2 will need to make me not fall asleep multiple times with a low grade story and horrible AI, I'd happily give up quite a bit of shooters for Blue Dragon and Lost odyssey though :) though with the price drop I heard about LO and BD might be within my grasp finally!

PS: Though if Geow has the train atachment as seen in CAD comic I think that'll make up for heaps :p

[Genesis-]

lol @ people "Keeping KZ".

I wasn't a massive fan of Gears, however i wouldn't mind it coming to PS3.


The more good games i can get my hands on the better.
I wouldn't trade Kill Zone 2 for it though.

[TH3 GAM3]

The only department GeOW2 could actually beat Killzone 2 in is gameplay. Every other category, Killzone 2 wins. Why trade it?! :suspect:

[lespaul2510]

no way, gears sucks anyway, who needs a chainsaw? Leaving Killzone 2 a PS3 exclusive will draw more people to buy a PS3, thus leaving their junkboxes behind

[gumionday]

I would not swap Killzone2 for Gears of War. I never was into FPS and Killzone 1 got me back into those games quite a bit more than previously released titles. Resistance sealed the deal and i knew then I really liked FPS again. I have seen some screens for gears of war 2 and they look good but the shots from KZ2 look so much better. It is the same character from UT3, they aren't making you play as Templar again they are giving it to someone else.

Killzone

[UK-Kane]

I wouldn't trade Kill Zone 2 for it though.


You're not trading it though, both would be out on PS3 in this (completely hypothetical) situation.

[AranhaHunter]

Yea, I wouldn't mind if others got to play Killzone as well, and on top of that I'd get to play Gears 2.

[SonyJunkie]

How does anyone know if Killzone 2 is going to be good, it looks good, but no one has played it. Ive heard that the first Killzone wasnt even that good. We all know how Gears is, but we have no idea about Killzone 2. I would love to have Gears 2 on the PS3 cause I know that the game is fun from the first one. But I dont know about Killzone 2. It looks really good, but im not going to hype it up saying its the best PS3 game, no one has any idea. Than if its a good game, people are going to say that its not as good as I hoped. Even though its good. Just wait for it to come out, then decide if you would have given up Killzone 2 to get Gears 2.

I know its sounds like I'm bashing the PS3 and Killzone 2, but im not, I love my PS3, thats all I got right now. But people are saying that Killzone 2 is going to be better than Gears 2. But we have no idea how KZ 2 is going to play or anything for that matter. We all know how Gears 2 plays, its going to be the same as Gears 1.

This was really pointless for me to say, cause none of you are going to care. But I wouldnt give up Killzone 2 for Gears 2. Its looking to be a good game. And id rather give something a chance, than taken something I know is already fun. Thats just how I am. I love new things.

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Just re-read the comments and I miss read some of them. No one was saying that Killzone 2 is going to be awesome. My bad, didnt mean for all that.

[DevDizz]

Hell yah. Instead of having one great game for the PS3 that would make 2. Just because GOW2 is on 360 many of ya'll want to make it seem as though it isn't a great game. Gears 1 has probably the best graphics of this young generation and Gears 2 is also likely to set a standard. I love MSG4 and am a proud PS3 owner. But there is a problem when our second generation of games are still compared to gears 1.

[Danzig-Mother]

I get to play both, so Im safe.

[Girugamesh]

Hell yah. Instead of having one great game for the PS3 that would make 2. Just because GOW2 is on 360 many of ya'll want to make it seem as though it isn't a great game. Gears 1 has probably the best graphics of this young generation and Gears 2 is also likely to set a standard. I love MSG4 and am a proud PS3 owner. But there is a problem when our second generation of games are still compared to gears 1.
HAHAHAHA. I ought to put this in my sig. Quality post right there. /sarcasm.
Idiot. Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears. So GTFO.

[Bitbydeath]

Definetly not.

Yea, I wouldn't mind if others got to play Killzone as well, and on top of that I'd get to play Gears 2.

But then Killzone would have to be dumbed down.

KZ2's levels take up around 2GB each so we'd get like 3 levels overall. :dunce

[nskinnear]

I would love to see Gears 2 on PS3. That was the one game that I really thought as a PS3 owner I was missing out on.

[fuzzypumpkins]

no, i didnt like gears, and they shouldnt give up kz to the box

[DevDizz]

HAHAHAHA. I ought to put this in my sig. Quality post right there. /sarcasm.
Idiot. Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears. So GTFO.
MSG4 is a good looking game, no doubt. Im actually on Act 5 and stuck on the puppeteer with Meryl. Anyways, Uncharted was pretty too, but gears is gears and that game was launched almost 2 years ago and it looks just as good. Im sorry to ruffle your little feathers, but thyat is something you can't deny. Graphically MSG4 and gears 1 are equivalent, MSG4 just has a lot more going on on screen. But details wise, it a draw.

[Vulgotha]

I don't think it'd be realistic to assert that Gears maintains graphical supremacy over MGS4, let alone Uncharted.

[TyPiKaL]

I don't like GoW IMO. So no definitely not.

Imagine how horrid Killzone 2 would be if they had to put it on a non-blu disc.

[Mr_Bob]

No thank you I don't want Gears as much as I used too. After beating it. I realized that the game was over hyped and a bit overrated. Let both games stay respectfully in their natural consoles.

[SillyHatMafia]

No, I Dont like Gears of War

[ttech10]

I'd much rather have one amazing exclusive than two normal multiplatform games... which is what basically all multiplat games are now... nothing more than average games because devs can't utilize the systems resources but rather port it from the 360.

[DayWalker]

:suspect:

I am gonna go ahead and wait till KX2 comes out before I comment.

nm.... sure why not. as long as the quality of KZ2 didn't diminish as a result of being multiplat...
and Gears was built from the ground up for the PS3...

[Two4DaMoney]

Hell no I wouldn't want for this to take place...

[Tetsu]

Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears.
Seriously... where do these people come from?

You Gears-heads can have your idiotic chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. Don't pollute the PS3 with poor B minus grade movie fodder games. We already have that with Enchanted Arms.

[360DiedOnMe]

HAHAHAHA. I ought to put this in my sig. Quality post right there. /sarcasm.
Idiot. Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears. So GTFO.
ugh , the graphics are not even comparable to crysis cutscenes nor actual gameplay. Why can't people leave it alone. No game on this gen of conosoles will be a bigger graphical feat than crysis. leave it alone already.

[Girugamesh]

MSG4 is a good looking game, no doubt. Im actually on Act 5 and stuck on the puppeteer with Meryl. Anyways, Uncharted was pretty too, but gears is gears and that game was launched almost 2 years ago and it looks just as good. Im sorry to ruffle your little feathers, but thyat is something you can't deny. Graphically MSG4 and gears 1 are equivalent, MSG4 just has a lot more going on on screen. But details wise, it a draw.
I seriously don't know WTF you are smoking.
http://xboxoz360.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/metal-gear-solid-4-review-closest-thing-to-perfect-since-ocarina-of-time/
Freaking 360 fansite right here - Graphically this game is one of the most beautiful games ever, only coming into close rivals with Crysis, but while Crysis beats Metal Gear Solid 4 in Game play graphics, it blows Crysis out of the water in Cut scenes.
Owned by a 360 fansite. LOL. MGS4 looks better than Gears 1 on the freakin PC. Here's from Gamespot - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made.
And Gamepro - Kojima has fooled us again: These aren't pre-rendered movies, as many had assumed, but in-game assets running in real time.
I'm just using critics to back me up. Gears (even for the PC) has absolutely nothing on this and you're just being a stubborn fanboy.

[Girugamesh]

Seriously... where do these people come from?

You Gears-heads can have your idiotic chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. Don't pollute the PS3 with poor B minus grade movie fodder games. We already have that with Enchanted Arms.
Owned.

ugh , the graphics are not even comparable to crysis cutscenes nor actual gameplay. Why can't people leave it alone. No game on this gen of conosoles will be a bigger graphical feat than crysis. leave it alone already.
I'm quoting a freaking Xbox 360 fansite LOL.
Yes, MGS4 in game cutscenes do look better than Crysis cutscenes. According to this Xbox 360 fansite posted above, they "blow Crysis cutscenes out of the water."

[360DiedOnMe]

Owned.


I'm quoting a freaking Xbox 360 fansite LOL.
Yes, MGS4 in game cutscenes do look better than Crysis cutscenes. According to this Xbox 360 fansite posted above, they "blow Crysis cutscenes out of the water."
dude, i have mgs4 and i have played crysis, The graphics have no comparison. The textures, the ligting, NOTHING. I will redownload the demo and take screenshots for you as if there aren't enough. Yes the acting is better. Do me a favor, go look at trees in crysis and the water and the explosions and also look at the TEXTURES on the GROUND. They blow everything out of the water. I don't care what some xbox site says, they are ******ed too. One thing that i love about mgs4 are the explosion effects, but don't compare the graphics to crysis. Not even close.

[Girugamesh]

dude, i have mgs4 and i have played crysis, The graphics have no comparison. The textures, the ligting, NOTHING. I will redownload the demo and take screenshots for you as if there aren't enough. Yes the acting is better. Do me a favor, go look at trees in crysis and the water and the explosions and also look at the TEXTURES on the GROUND. They blow everything out of the water. I don't care what some xbox site says, they are ******ed too. One thing that i love about mgs4 are the explosion effects, but don't compare the graphics to crysis. Not even close.
Of course, buddy, whatever you want to convince yourself. PS3 fans say MGS4 cutscenes are greater than Crysis cutscenes, 360 fans say MGS4 cutscenes are greater than Crysis cutscenes, (lol you know it must be true then) and Gamespot, which is known as a site that hates the PS3, says "MGS4 is the most technically stunning game ever created." Hmmm, I'd say you're alone on this one.
You can have your opinion, and I respect it, but seriously, don't try to convince me something when I have PLENTY of people seeing things the same way I do.

[360DiedOnMe]

Listen to me carefully and then go look at HD videos of both games, The Graphics are not comparable, on top of that, The TEXTURES are not even close. I am a huge ps3 fan, but when it doesn't look better it just doesn't. MGS4 is def. the most technically stunning game on a CONSOLE. That's where it stops bud.

[Girugamesh]

Listen to me carefully and then go look at HD videos of both games, The Graphics are not comparable, on top of that, The TEXTURES are not even close. I am a huge ps3 fan, but when it doesn't look better it just doesn't. MGS4 is def. the most technically stunning game on a CONSOLE. That's where it stops bud.
The fact that you're getting defensive leads me to believe that you are mostly a PC gamer. Which leads me to believe you are biased. You seem to not be able to comprehend that the PS3 has a processor that PC's won't be seeing for quite some time, blowing nearly all PC processors in the dust. It also has 50Gb of free space, allowing for some massive graphical phenomenons to take place. MGS4 textures OWN Crysis textures. Look at Cysis rock in the left. Look at all the MGS4 textures along the walls and everything.
Crysis cutscene shot: http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/819/819501/crysis-20070911110038618.jpg
And MGS4 cutscene shot: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/141/926596_20080521_screen010.jpg

[360DiedOnMe]

YouTube - The most realistic graphics ever. More realistic than crysis

LMAO now on the real note, here you go bud.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPi0AhQgrDs&feature=related

[360DiedOnMe]

i can't believe you said mgs4 textures own crysis textures, dude you are out of your mind. Secondly the only game i play on Pc is GEARS OF WAR. THAT's IT. Thirdly, the textures of mgs4 have nothing on textures of crysis. That crap up there looks like crap, what is it with the lines on the concrete walls??? the game looks so much better than that, run it in VERY HIGH.

[Gizmo356]

No thank you, I think Killzone 2 belongs on the PS3 and Gears belongs on the 360. Its probably better if it stays that way.

[Two4DaMoney]

All of this between you two because of some damn cutscenes? Come on now.

[MiNiMaL_sAnItY]

Seriously... where do these people come from?

You Gears-heads can have your idiotic chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. Don't pollute the PS3 with poor B minus grade movie fodder games. We already have that with Enchanted Arms.

Pollute? Yeah, because the ps3 has only high quality, movie grade games on it, right? :rolleyes: Some people enjoy "idiotic" chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain, contrary to popular belief.

And crysis>mgs4(graphically) or any other game out for that matter.

[Vulgotha]

..Girugamesh, the PS3 can output some amazing looking games- but Crysis on Super High Settings requires a monster of a completely different nature.

The PS3 has a very potent processor, and a good disc medium. However it still simply doesn't have as much physical memory as a PC does (required to run Crysis at said settings). Despite the exponentially increased efficiency of memory usage in a console, you simply still don't have alot of the "Room" needed.

This is why (in part) many games on the 360 and PS3 are not high resolutions, typically the "Best looking" being Sub HD. (Below 720p).

[Sephiroth7924]

I will not ever do that. Gears has gotten kinda old to me and gears 2 wont be any different. It wont be much of a gain so ill stay with Killzone 2.

[Itaintrite]

My answer would be no as well for one simple reason. No PS3 port please :/

[360DiedOnMe]

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6769/crysis20071102151055481fn2.jpg
http://www.crysis-online.com/Media/Screenshots/Screenshots/first_level_05.jpg

ok i'm not even going to look for more. That should be enough

[Idenowhereiam]

No and heres why..
Killzone is built for the the ps3.. and porting it will make it just as good for the xb360..
(fact games port from the ps3/to the 360 are equally good if not slightly in the ps3s favor)
Now theres nothing wrong with that, besides disk size (possible multi disk 360 ver.) I see it being a good port and a great pick up for the 360 as another stellar game to add to its library...

But c'mon now lets be honest.. the ps3 would get the short end of the stick on this deal.. I mean dont get me wrong Geow2 will be a siick game and would be a great addition as well.. but lets be serious.. A game ported from the 360 to the ps3 is going be lacking not only that but.. the unreal engine on the ps3 in my opinion sucks.. Its just broken no doubt it would be delayed, and have some kind of issues.. Its a good engine for the 360 no question.. but i've yet to be wowed by it on my current system of choice..

And thats just going on past experiences..So honestly let these games shine where they belong and lets not have any blemishes on them just yet..

[rexest]

If killzone 2 can be ported onto the 360 it just means that companys still arnt using the extra room on the blu ray disc and pushing the ps3, Which would be dissapointing.

[Insanehead]

Deep down inside I know PS3 owners would love to see Gears 2 for the PS3 whether they like the game or not just for the heck of it. Also I think the argument of "can't be done on X360" is getting tiresome. We know its possible.

[Bitbydeath]

If killzone 2 can be ported onto the 360 it just means that companys still arnt using the extra room on the blu ray disc and pushing the ps3, Which would be dissapointing.

As i stated earlier. KZ2 levels are 2GB each.

A 3 level game would not be very impressive after all the money Sony have put into this game.

[skarekrow]

Naw, ill keep my graphical masterpiece as it is and play Gears 2 with more levels on the pc a year later.

[mickice]

Just buy a PS3, play Killzone 2 then play Gears of War 1 and 2 on PC.
Theres really no need for the 360 to be part of this at all.

To be honest the gaming world could live without X-box.

[Vulgotha]

As i stated earlier. KZ2 levels are 2GB each.

A 3 level game would not be very impressive after all the money Sony have put into this game.

Well it isn't quite like that... The demo levels shown were 2GB apiece in total size because they had to use other assets from the game (weapons, character models, etc etc). Not to say that the levels won't be rather large in size and complexity, but it isn't as if "Each and every level of our game is around or above the 2GB area".

But KZ2 is a technical masterpiece to marvel at.

[Lil_Mermaid_Girl]

No, I'm sick of so many shooters anyways, and good exclusives make gaming fun and keep developers on their toes, especially 1st party developers.

[Girugamesh]

i can't believe you said mgs4 textures own crysis textures, dude you are out of your mind. Secondly the only game i play on Pc is GEARS OF WAR. THAT's IT. Thirdly, the textures of mgs4 have nothing on textures of crysis. That crap up there looks like crap, what is it with the lines on the concrete walls??? the game looks so much better than that, run it in VERY HIGH.
That is an IGN screenshot, so they were running it in very high. Obviously, I have all the things backing me. Like I said, PS3 fans, 360 fans (lol), and the critics all agree. MGS4 cutscenes have better visuals than Crysis cutscenes.
BTW, I don't believe that MGS4 is technically greater than Crysis, obviously, Crysis crashes freaking NASA computers. But the motion capture, realistic animations, and small details like in facial expressions give MGS4 the upper edge in cutscenes. The 360 fansite says it blows Crysis cutscenes out of the water, so if you don't think there is at least competition, you are severely mistaken. BTW the textures in that MGS4 shot I posted are better than most Crysis shots I've seen so far. And Crysis shots have an advantage - you can run the settings on high to where your PC can't actually run the game more than 1 frame per second and take a shot like that that looks gorgeous. But MGS4 runs silky smooth, no putting settings on high, then getting bad framerate to take a shot. Anyways, when it all comes down to it, Killzone 2 devs have stated that Killzone 2 is only using 4 1/2 PPE's out of the 6 that are available, and that comment was very recent. That's 4 1/2 PPE's that they aren't even exploiting and finding all the loopholes and getting everything out of them. And look how insane Killzone 2 looks. By the end of the PS3's life cycle, we'll be seeing things at least Crysis level. Look at Resistance 2. 300 feet tall monsters, things that only the Cell processor can whip out.

Pollute? Yeah, because the ps3 has only high quality, movie grade games on it, right? :rolleyes: Some people enjoy "idiotic" chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain, contrary to popular belief
Yes, hardcore spazzes in America that don't want to think at all when they're playing a game do enjoy chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. You're correct.

[ThaoNguyen]

No. I'd say yes if I had any reason to believe that developers are willing to do anything other than port games or give mediocre development support to make multiplatform games, but history shows that they almost never are. I'd rather they make gow2 a good 360 game and kz2 a good ps3 game. I'm tired of these half-assed mediocre steaming piles of multiplatform ****.

[left_senseless]

i didn't like anything about gears except the way it looked. so for me it would be a solid no.

[Girugamesh]

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6769/crysis20071102151055481fn2.jpg
http://www.crysis-online.com/Media/Screenshots/Screenshots/first_level_05.jpg

ok i'm not even going to look for more. That should be enough
Like I said, with Crysis you can put the settings on very high and run the game at 1 frame per second. Then take a shot. I'm sure the developers could do that with MGS4 also.
But to analyze those screeshots - In the first pic, look at the right. The foliage looks absolutely terrible. The textures of the rock also look terrible. In the second pic, the textures of the walls can't EVEN compare to the textures on the MGS4 wall I posted.

[Metfanant]

would i enjoy the GEoW series making its way to the PS3??? sure...but would i trade KZ2 for GEoW2?? nope....MS can keep it...

[msdstc]

Gears was incredibly Overrated IMO... but yet we barely know anything about KZ2 and how good that'll be. My money is on it being a great game, and I'd stick with that.

[atomsk]

crysis has the best graphics i've seen in a video game and i doubt current gen consoles will ever reach that level, the end.

both killzone and gow are boring.

[MiNiMaL_sAnItY]

Yes, hardcore spazzes in America that don't want to think at all when they're playing a game do enjoy chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. You're correct.

What about hardcore spazzes who get angry over other people liking gears of war? Get over your high and mighty self!

[NYFAN]

2 simple words for you.... HELL NO!!!!!!

[360DiedOnMe]

Like I said, with Crysis you can put the settings on very high and run the game at 1 frame per second. Then take a shot. I'm sure the developers could do that with MGS4 also.
But to analyze those screeshots - In the first pic, look at the right. The foliage looks absolutely terrible. The textures of the rock also look terrible. In the second pic, the textures of the walls can't EVEN compare to the textures on the MGS4 wall I posted.
ugh, i have a 500 dollar build and at max settings at 1650x1080 in dx9 it doesn't drop below 8fps in a firefight. So don't go overboard on the fps. We're not talkigna bout how it will run, we're talking about what it looks like. Textures on the GROUND on Crysis on very high are better than textures on the suite of snake. Don't give me an octocamo exuse. I honeslty don't care though. Cuz personally Gears of war pc is the best game for me, adios bud. Go have the whole internet back you up, i could care less about your cutscnenes.

[lordXenu]

I will not ever do that. Gears has gotten kinda old to me and gears 2 wont be any different. It wont be much of a gain so ill stay with Killzone 2.

yep KZ2 looks way better than GEARS2 graphically

and in terms of gameplay it would live up to the hype

RESISTANCE 2 with 300 feet BOSS , 60 player online and 8 player co-op is the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME for FALL

I am quite sure RESISTANCE 2 will sell 2x as much GEARS2 in EUROPE

It will beat /match GEARS2 sales in USA

But in terms of WW sales R2 will easily outsell GEARS2 this FALL

[Metfanant]

ugh, i have a 500 dollar build and at max settings at 1650x1080 in dx9 it doesn't drop below 8fps in a firefight. So don't go overboard on the fps. We're not talkigna bout how it will run, we're talking about what it looks like. Textures on the GROUND on Crysis on very high are better than textures on the suite of snake. Don't give me an octocamo exuse. I honeslty don't care though. Cuz personally Gears of war pc is the best game for me, adios bud. Go have the whole internet back you up, i could care less about your cutscnenes.

well, hold me back...8fps? must be one buttery smooth gaming experience right there....


to think...people complained when when Madden and NCAA 08 ran only 30fps....

i mean honestly...im not even sure what this fight is about....currently MGS4 is the best looking console game, hands down IMO...Uncharted would be a close second (two TOTALLY different artistic styles though, so tough to compare)...

the PC is a whole different ballgame...if you want to shell out the money they go ahead...i'll stick with my PS3 my mediocre PC desktop, and my Apple laptop...

[lordXenu]

crysis has the best graphics i've seen in a video game and i doubt current gen consoles will ever reach that level, the end.

both killzone and gow are boring.

dont compare ultrarealistic KZ2 to GEARS2

GEARS2 looks just like UT3 .

It doesnt look as good as UNCHARTED so no need to compare it to KZ2

[360DiedOnMe]

yep KZ2 looks way better than GEARS2 graphically

and in terms of gameplay it would live up to the hype

RESISTANCE 2 with 300 feet BOSS , 60 player online and 8 player co-op is the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME for FALL

I am quite sure RESISTANCE 2 will sell 2x as much GEARS2 in EUROPE

It will beat /match GEARS2 sales in USA

But in terms of WW sales R2 will easily outsell GEARS2 this FALL
hopefully, i will def. pick up resistance 2. So many people will pick up Gears 2 though, don't underestimate it.

[NYFAN]

well, hold me back...8fps? must be one buttery smooth gaming experience right there....


to think...people complained when when Madden and NCAA 08 ran only 30fps....


:lol: :lol: :lol: Good catch my friend +rep when my 24hrs is up....:?

[lordXenu]

hopefully, i will def. pick up resistance 2. So many people will pick up Gears 2 though, don't underestimate it.

yea but more will pick up RESISTANCE 2

It killed all FPS hype with that 300 feet BOSS

expect RESISTANCE 2 to outsell GEARS2 2:1 in EUROPE

In WW sales it will be dead EVEN

But ofcourse the LEVIATHAN footage at e3 will CRUSH the hopes of many games this E3

SONY is on a roll here

[leukoplast]

Heck no, GeOW is one of the most overrated games out on the market (basically, Halos replacement in hype.)

Really, all I need to say here is Unreal Engine. Any game that uses that, is a game I will never play.

[Two4DaMoney]

Also I think the argument of "can't be done on X360" is getting tiresome. We know its possible.
We know the ps3 and 360 are about equal. But why haven't we seen such a game on the 360 yet when it has had a one year jump on the ps3?

[lordXenu]

If killzone 2 can be ported onto the 360 it just means that companys still arnt using the extra room on the blu ray disc and pushing the ps3, Which would be dissapointing.


The CELL processor beats anything out there in terms of sheer processing power

It is like 10x XENON

There is no way KZ2 could be done on x360

there are 23 ps3 games which run at 1080p native with 6 running at 1080p native at 60 fps ---includes GT5P

However there is nothing on x360 that can run at 1080p NATIVE

PS3 is way more powerful than X360. there is no doubt there. It is just harder to program

[Metfanant]

crysis has the best graphics i've seen in a video game and i doubt current gen consoles will ever reach that level, the end.

both killzone and gow are boring.

Criterion Games called....and wants you to compare Black to some PS2 launch titles....and then tell me that there is NO WAY the PS3 can't make the leap....


Black

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/684/684449/black-20060130105904556.jpg


Silent Scope

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/scope/silentscope_10.jpg

Unreal Tournament

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/unreal/unrealt_4.jpg

then tell me....that there is no way the PS3 can make an improvement from this....

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/881/881472/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots--20080612044115030.jpg

and this...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826994/uncharted-drakes-fortune-20071012021545310.jpg



to this....

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/830/830713/crysis-20071026034210066.jpg


http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/803/803286/crysis-20070711023146589.jpg





and THEN...while you try and explain yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into...could you tell me 1. What percentage of PC gamers, let alone PC users, have a PC capable of even trying to run Crysis??....and 2. what percentage of PC games even approach the visuals of Crysis??...


edit: and mind you...remember that we are talking video game consoles here...not bloated PC's....

Black was achieved with the PS2's knock your socks off specs of

CPU clock speed: an OJ Simpson "high speed" chase worthy 294.912 MHz (BLAZING FAST)

System Memory size: a herculean 32MB!! (Barry Bonds wants your steriod dealer's number!)

GPU clock speed: 147.456MHz (That thing got a Hemi?!)

not to mention the massive 4MB of embedded DRAM for the GPU....

you show me a PC with THOSE specs that could match the PS2....

remember...consoles don't need the extravagant numbers to do impressive things...

[lordXenu]

Deep down inside I know PS3 owners would love to see Gears 2 for the PS3 whether they like the game or not just for the heck of it. Also I think the argument of "can't be done on X360" is getting tiresome. We know its possible.

We all know it is IMPOSSIBLE

There is nothing on X360 that rivals UNCHARTED graphically

There is njothing on x360 that runs at 1080P at 60 FPS like the ultrarealistic GT5P/ WIPEOUT HD

[RaceworX]

sod gears of war! killzone is actually a FPS im intrested in playing...

also why all this talk of crysis?? you 360 guys must really be scrapping the barrel if the best offence you have is a game that requires an uber PC to run it at anything close to MGS4 beating quality and last i checked wasnt even on the Xbox... but could actually be coming to the PS3

what will happen to your arguments if that happens??

[lordXenu]

Criterion Games called....and wants you to compare Black to some PS2 launch titles....and then tell me that there is NO WAY the PS3 can't make the leap....


Black

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/684/684449/black-20060130105904556.jpg


Silent Scope

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/scope/silentscope_10.jpg

Unreal Tournament

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/unreal/unrealt_4.jpg

then tell me....that there is no way the PS3 can make an improvement from this....

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/881/881472/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots--20080612044115030.jpg

and this...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826994/uncharted-drakes-fortune-20071012021545310.jpg



to this....

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/830/830713/crysis-20071026034210066.jpg


http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/803/803286/crysis-20070711023146589.jpg





and THEN...while you try and explain yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into...could you tell me 1. What percentage of PC gamers, let alone PC users, have a PC capable of even trying to run Crysis??....and 2. what percentage of PC games even approach the visuals of Crysis??...

good post there

I cant imagine what UNCHARTED 2 will look like

ALready it looks as the BEST LOOKING CONSOLE game excepting KZ2 and CRYSIS

My eyes will explode when i see the gameplay footage of UNCHRATED 2

[leukoplast]

Good post Metfanant. And yeah, you have a very good point there, we are only in the beginning stages of the PS3. I can only imagine the games coming out in a few years for the PS3. MGS4, and Uncharted are only the start, and they are already pretty darn amazing, even in comparison to games like Crysis its already pretty close.

[Alpha2]

Hell no.

If I want to play 'Gears I'll get a PC to play it on. it's not like you need an 36* to play 36* exclusives.

[Two4DaMoney]

I'm sure no one expected anything like Black to be possible on the ps2. I need to find that game, I never got to play it.

[carlosb]

sod gears of war! killzone is actually a FPS im intrested in playing...

also why all this talk of crysis?? you 360 guys must really be scrapping the barrel if the best offence you have is a game that requires an uber PC to run it at anything close to MGS4 beating quality and last i checked wasnt even on the Xbox... but could actually be coming to the PS3

what will happen to your arguments if that happens??

You should really reread the thread to see who brought up Crysis.

[Insanehead]

Its becoming another "vs graphics" thread that got previous one locked.

[360DiedOnMe]

Criterion Games called....and wants you to compare Black to some PS2 launch titles....and then tell me that there is NO WAY the PS3 can't make the leap....


Black

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/684/684449/black-20060130105904556.jpg


Silent Scope

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/scope/silentscope_10.jpg

Unreal Tournament

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/unreal/unrealt_4.jpg

then tell me....that there is no way the PS3 can make an improvement from this....

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/881/881472/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots--20080612044115030.jpg

and this...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826994/uncharted-drakes-fortune-20071012021545310.jpg



to this....

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/830/830713/crysis-20071026034210066.jpg


http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/803/803286/crysis-20070711023146589.jpg





and THEN...while you try and explain yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into...could you tell me 1. What percentage of PC gamers, let alone PC users, have a PC capable of even trying to run Crysis??....and 2. what percentage of PC games even approach the visuals of Crysis??...


edit: and mind you...remember that we are talking video game consoles here...not bloated PC's....

Black was achieved with the PS2's knock your socks off specs of

CPU clock speed: an OJ Simpson "high speed" chase worthy 294.912 MHz (BLAZING FAST)

System Memory size: a herculean 32MB!! (Barry Bonds wants your steriod dealer's number!)

GPU clock speed: 147.456MHz (That thing got a Hemi?!)

not to mention the massive 4MB of embedded DRAM for the GPU....

you show me a PC with THOSE specs that could match the PS2....

remember...consoles don't need the extravagant numbers to do impressive things...
no hole, if i keep it on high and not very high and keep it at 1280x720 i will run about 34fps. Pretty good huh??? still looks better than any console games. Idk what the deal is with you guys, i always defend my ps3 but on this one it's not going to happen. PS3 or 360 will never have crysis calibur graphics on them. If you haven't played the game maxed out then don't comparet it.

BTW now enlarge all of the screens and look at how much is going on uncharted (loved the game) and how much detail there is in crysis. it's a WHOLE world not an alleyway.

[TheMadTitan]

yes i would make kz2 multiplat for gears multiplat.

[msdstc]

Ehh the crysis debate happens all the time. I agree it'll never be played on PS3 maxed out, maybe on gimped settings. The thing is though, that's because of the physics, and everything going on is in realtime. Games can look that good if they find ways to cheat to make it look good. Killzone 2 has better art direction and uses scripted events to achieve the look, and IMO looks much better than crysis. It's cleaner, smoother, the lighting looks better, etc. Let's not forget the scale and size of lair people... the game sucked, but the graphics were incredible.

[RedDragon7]

I'm not as excited for Gears 2 as I am for Killzone 2. No offense to Gears 2 but I'm just not impressed... yet. Besides that I'm not sure its technically possible. Regardless, its legally impossible.

[durbanyte]

Whilst I like Gears, I wouldnt. Almost all multiplat games have been inferior on the PS3 than on the 360, gears would be aswell. I'll just stick to KZ2 and let 360 fans keep gears.

I think Resistance 2 will blow out both of them though

[MiNiMaL_sAnItY]

well, hold me back...8fps? must be one buttery smooth gaming experience right there....


to think...people complained when when Madden and NCAA 08 ran only 30fps....

i mean honestly...im not even sure what this fight is about....currently MGS4 is the best looking console game, hands down IMO...Uncharted would be a close second (two TOTALLY different artistic styles though, so tough to compare)...

the PC is a whole different ballgame...if you want to shell out the money they go ahead...i'll stick with my PS3 my mediocre PC desktop, and my Apple laptop...

He's running the game at 1680x1050 res while consoles cant even do proper 720p right now.

Criterion Games called....and wants you to compare Black to some PS2 launch titles....and then tell me that there is NO WAY the PS3 can't make the leap....

[images]

and THEN...while you try and explain yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into...could you tell me 1. What percentage of PC gamers, let alone PC users, have a PC capable of even trying to run Crysis??....and 2. what percentage of PC games even approach the visuals of Crysis??...

Agreed about the progression of graphics on consoles. But right now, there isnt a game that can match the visual fidelity of crysis on very high. Crysis sold 1mil copies, so gamers have bought it no doubt.

[richkaos]

The title says the question.latley iv bean hearing that people will do anything to get Gear of War 2 to be on the ps3, and making that sacrifice will be killzone 2. Any one agree or disagree to question?


Couldnt give a monkeys arse about gears of war, and if you have been hearing that people have been making these noises you need to tell them to get a life or a 360. Do you not think we have enough FPS games???
:gta:

[Syugo]

The "green team" can have Gears. Let the PS3 fans have KZ2.

Gears is nothing but overhyped to begin with. Gears 2 looks rather promising though... But nothing I'd trade KZ2 for.


Besides both games would have to be watered down if they were to become multiplats. So who wins in that scenario? Nobody.


QFT

Right in SO many ways. +rep for you

[Girugamesh]

no hole, if i keep it on high and not very high and keep it at 1280x720 i will run about 34fps. Pretty good huh??? still looks better than any console games. Idk what the deal is with you guys, i always defend my ps3 but on this one it's not going to happen. PS3 or 360 will never have crysis calibur graphics on them. If you haven't played the game maxed out then don't comparet it.

BTW now enlarge all of the screens and look at how much is going on uncharted (loved the game) and how much detail there is in crysis. it's a WHOLE world not an alleyway.
Hmmm. Let's think that one over for a second, shall we? Uncharted was using how much of the Cell processor again? 30%? Oh, that's right, look it up on google. And that's not even exploiting that 30% Taking a look at that PS2 progression from launch games to black, we will be seeing Crysis level graphics at very MINIMUM on the PS3 before it's all over with.

He's running the game at 1680x1050 res while consoles cant even do proper 720p right now.
At 8fps. LOL...

And @ that stupid 360 has same power as PS3 argument up there. Please, get over it. You can't be in that much denial. It's impossible. The PS3 is roughly 40 - 55% more powerful than the 360 without hardware exploitation.

[xsjinsx]

I have played both of the originals and GOW got boring really quick. I preferred the online multi player of halo compared to GOW.