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GuitarrassDeAmor
June 24th, 2008, 05:26 AM
I have been thinking of making this for a while, and decided to just get it over with. Basically, these are all my ideas how to make the next GTA more awesome than IV was. Contribute ideas and post whatever changes and such, then we can get these to Rockstar somehow lol.

First of all, it should be PS3 exclusive. Sure, you could make it on the 360 if you want...but if you change an island or so...you will be switching discs. 50gb of a Grand Theft Auto game...we have seen what they can do with 9gb...think of Metal Gear Solid graphics in a GTA game (Obviously not AS good, but almost..). That would be freaking amazing. They could probably make every building open...way more cars, way more things to do...it would be amazing. Seriously.

Second, more story modes/ways to go. We should get to choose a good guy/bad guy route. Granted, we do in IV, but in the end it plays out the same I think...you still end up doing most of the same missions. We could even have extra characters and such to play as, say if you finished "Bob"'s story, you could then play as another character, "Jim", at the same time Bob was doing something (sorta ties the story in), or right after and you could kill Bob, etc. Stuff like that would be awesome, and with Blu-Ray, there would def. be enough room. Also, make some different missions besides just drive there, kill people, pick up something. I mean, as much as I love it...it could get old in another game. We need missions such as frequent helicopter rides, RC cars with bombs, motocross races, stuff like that. We also need to be able to do missions in many different ways, that would be awesome. Not saying we can't right now, but it would be cool.
Niko was awesome in IV...you felt like you could actually "relate" to him in a way, which you couldn't with any of the other characters. A story where we have even a better character, or even more would be awesome.

Third, we need a WAY better multiplayer. Overall, I think I have played 4 of the multiplayer modes on GTA4, and I don't like them at all. Nobody uses a mic, nobody works together on things such as free roam, death matches are stale, etc....just isn't a good experience. I really expected more, and was disappointed. We need DLC for it as well...maybe a whole new city or something...that would be amazing.

Fourth, we need more customization. Why not let us make our own character? Sort of like the Tony Hawk customizer, we can do his clothes ANY way we want (like maybe have Playboy X's clothes...!? I was mad when I couldn't get them after I killed him! :mad:), his face changed, build, etc. They can still keep the voice and such the same, as we need it to play out in the story mode. We also need to be able to trick our cars out. Now, I never played SA, and don't care about it, but know it had customization. I think it would add a lot to the game. In IV, I don't think it would have fit in as much with the gritty storyline, so I could have cared less. The next game should have it though.

Fifth...one of the most important things...DO NOT CHANGE THE GRAPHICS STYLE! I HATED Grand Theft Auto Vice City and San Andreas mostly because of the graphics schemes...I LOVE THE GRITTY AND DARK LOOK. LEAVE IT ROCKSTAR! Seriously, it looks better. I also love the mob like bad guy story...so much better and easier to get into.

Sixth....set it somewhere awesome, like Chicago or the United Kingdom. I really want a WHOLE new location with a WAY larger map. Liberty City is AWESOME, but you can't make another game right after on it IMO.

:snicker

ThaoNguyen
June 24th, 2008, 05:28 AM
I would dress him in a cheerleader outfit :-P

ooo, and you should be able to adjust traffic, at least through a code. I'm tired of driving around almost empty streets in dense cities. Every once in a while, I want to drive through realistic, aka heavy, traffic. that would be uber fun on a motorcycle. not so much in a big car :p

efs5030
June 24th, 2008, 05:34 AM
and set the driving not all the way back but a little bit easier and dont make the cops so r*******

Xsjado
June 24th, 2008, 05:37 AM
an ever up datable coding so with patches you could make the character ride skateboards and do some dancing, anything would be possible.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 24th, 2008, 06:06 AM
So...anybody else....? I spent 20 minutes writing this, I want some responses!

PROTOTYPE
June 24th, 2008, 07:26 AM
Wow there is so much I wan't next time around I don't know where to begin...

1.Well first of all I wan't a smaller city. WHAT?! A smaller city?! Yes and the reason is that liberty city was big and all but in all that space there wasn't a whole hell of a lot to do. I want smaller scale but waaaaaay more detail.

2.I wan't to be able to enter every building and I don't mean enter a door where there is a staircase leading up to a roof. I want detailed interiors and not ones that are repeated from building to building.

3.I wan't things to do!!! Put in some casinos, multiple bars (ones where we can actually walk in and order a drink, not just walk up to the door then voila 3 hours of game time have passed and your drunk standing outside) and maybe a cool venue such as a UFC style arena where you can fist fight people for the belt!

4.Customization. I want full character customization with the exception of voice and name. This means being able to change clothes (more than just a few outfits too!), face, hair, skin, build, etc. Also car customization and weapon customization including scopes, suppressors, forgrips and attachments (laser sight, flashlight, etc.)

5.DITCH THE AUTO AIM! It sucks, Period. I want a MGS style aiming system with over the shoulder third person aiming with the ability to aim down the sights/scope in first person if desired.

6.Bring back the wilderness. It was great in San Andreas because in encouraged exploration. I like the city aspect but give me some wilderness as well.

7.Better cover system. Ditch the clingy cover system in favor of something similar to army of two's (basically just allows you to crouch but when crouched behind an object and you hold the aim button you will peek out).

8.Better hand to hand. Light/Heavy Attack buttons and a block button that actually works.

Man I could go on all day with what I want so im just gonna stop here haha.

kurt4ever
June 24th, 2008, 07:37 AM
what about a western grandtheftauto-grand theft horses:}

BiGGieStuFF
June 24th, 2008, 07:42 AM
My g/f wants there to be an option to be a female character. She wants to pimp herself out and work her way to madame status. Kind of scares me and turns me on at the same time.

ThaoNguyen
June 24th, 2008, 07:54 AM
My g/f wants there to be an option to be a female character. She wants to pimp herself out and work her way to madame status. Kind of scares me and turns me on at the same time.
yeah! me too! well, maybe not pimp myself out, lol, but i want to be able to play as a badass femme fatale. and if she needs a little male servicing from time to time, well, what's wrong with that?:p

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 24th, 2008, 08:02 AM
Wow there is so much I wan't next time around I don't know where to begin...

1.Well first of all I wan't a smaller city. WHAT?! A smaller city?! Yes and the reason is that liberty city was big and all but in all that space there wasn't a whole hell of a lot to do. I want smaller scale but waaaaaay more detail.

2.I wan't to be able to enter every building and I don't mean enter a door where there is a staircase leading up to a roof. I want detailed interiors and not ones that are repeated from building to building.

3.I wan't things to do!!! Put in some casinos, multiple bars (ones where we can actually walk in and order a drink, not just walk up to the door then voila 3 hours of game time have passed and your drunk standing outside) and maybe a cool venue such as a UFC style arena where you can fist fight people for the belt!

4.Customization. I want full character customization with the exception of voice and name. This means being able to change clothes (more than just a few outfits too!), face, hair, skin, build, etc. Also car customization and weapon customization including scopes, suppressors, forgrips and attachments (laser sight, flashlight, etc.)

5.DITCH THE AUTO AIM! It sucks, Period. I want a MGS style aiming system with over the shoulder third person aiming with the ability to aim down the sights/scope in first person if desired.

6.Bring back the wilderness. It was great in San Andreas because in encouraged exploration. I like the city aspect but give me some wilderness as well.

7.Better cover system. Ditch the clingy cover system in favor of something similar to army of two's (basically just allows you to crouch but when crouched behind an object and you hold the aim button you will peek out).

8.Better hand to hand. Light/Heavy Attack buttons and a block button that actually works.

Man I could go on all day with what I want so im just gonna stop here haha.

I agree with a lot of this. The reason that there was nothing to do in the city though was because of a certain format holding it back (yes you DVD9!). That is the reason Rockstar rumored the next might be PS exclusive.
5, yes, however, I like the system right now. 6, that would be awesome. 7, not Ao2s, I didn't like it....something like Uncharted. 8, yes.

DreDayDetox
June 24th, 2008, 08:02 AM
make it exactly like san andreas? nuff said.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 24th, 2008, 08:08 AM
make it exactly like san andreas? nuff said.
Hell no. San Andreas blew IMO.

ThaoNguyen
June 24th, 2008, 08:18 AM
make it exactly like san andreas? nuff said.
hell yes, San Andreas rocked IMO

Beast of Bourbon
June 24th, 2008, 08:29 AM
hmm i dont think we should be able to "create our own character" in a GTA game... the main character just has to be cool (not like CJ taking **** from anyone)
this is much better in GTA4...
SPOILER
SPOILER
you do some missions for VLAD and then kill him! This was BADASS!
way more people die :)
i dont think it would work if you had multiple characters to play (i wouldn´t like it)

I would like to have a bigger map...(liked to drive from city to city/exploration etc.)

Beeing able to enter EACH building is over the top imho (and i dont want to wait 10years for the next gta)

l91
June 24th, 2008, 01:11 PM
I want R* to spend more time on gameplay rather than a enormous map and fantastic graphics. A big multi-storey car park in the middle of the map where you could keep about 25 cars, not too many or it would just be stupid but more than we have now.

An online multiplayer story mode:shock:

Ordell
June 24th, 2008, 01:31 PM
1. Customization is a pretty big one. In fact, it was such a glaring omission (no tattoos, hair styles, no custom paint or rims for the cars, etc.) that I wonder if the 360's DLC won't have a bunch of this sort of stuff.

2. I need something to spend my money on. After the "Three Leaf Clover" mission, you get $250,000. But what does this mean for the player? Almost nothing. Aside from loading up on weapons, there's just nothing to buy.

3. Similarly, I'd like to have my own car. That is, it's terribly annoying (and I'm talking about San Andreas, too) to have some slick ride only to "lose" it a few minutes later. If I buy (and customize) a car, I'd like to be able to keep it indefinitely - or at least until I wreck it. This "losing" cars just because you started a mission is pretty weak, imo.

4. More The Sims aspects. Maybe it's out of place for the genre, but I'd like more "real life" demands placed on my character: going to the bathroom and taking showers, being able to situate the furniture in safehouses, having to purchase gasoline for the cars (which would include, of course, the possibility that they'll run out of gas, a nice added touch, I'd think). Stuff like that.

5. More good vs. evil choices, as mentioned above.

6. Most of the cars sound pretty bad, and too many of them sound alike. The sound in the game is so generally amazing that a lot of it gets lost amidst the sounds of the cars. For instance, did you know different vehicles make different sounds according to the surface they're driving on? That's so frikkin' cool, yet I hardly ever really experience it because 90% of the cars sound a like powerboat, drowning it out with even the slightest amount of gas.

7. Hotter chicks, please. They're all dogs (especially Kate, and she's the one we're kinda forced into liking the most). Even Kiki, who's kinda hot, dresses like a complete nerd. The dateable women should be total cyber-hotties like a lot of the strippers. Give them better bodies, sexier clothes, and sexier attitudes. Make me crush on these girls a bit, ya know? I don't want to be annoyed (Carmen) when I'm on a date; I want fun, sexy, flirtatious dialog with a HOT chick.

8. Cooler friends, too. Honestly, would Niko hang with Brucie? Or Packie? It just feels forced. Dwayne was close to being cool, but all he did was complain. Jacob is sorta cool, but I can't understand anything he says, so it's moot. Roman works because he's family, but everyone else, it seems, just doesn't have good enough (realistic enough) lines to make the friendships in the game believable.

9. More accessible buildings, again as mentioned above.

10. I know the Stevie mission strand brings the reward of getting to take stolen cars and get money for them, but shouldn't this option be availible way sooner? I mean, the title of the game is Grand Theft Auto, after all. I should be able to take stolen cars to a chop-shop and get money for them almost right away.

11. Building off #10, stealing cars should be a bit harder. Maybe a small mini-game where I have to hot-wire the car.

12. Difficulty in general could be ramped up. Maybe an "extreme" mode where things like traffic laws (including speeding) actually get enforced.

madeener
June 24th, 2008, 01:32 PM
how about destruct-able cover so that there wouldnt be cowards hiding all the time?

i mean a wall do collapse with a RPG hits it.

Karbineftw
June 24th, 2008, 02:37 PM
I think for new ideas for a new GTA, they shouldn't make one.
4 sucked and alot of people agree :(

Dave-The-Rave
June 24th, 2008, 02:38 PM
GTA III series + GTA IV x 2 (Which is waht GTA IV should of been to start with !!)

darth_alex
June 24th, 2008, 02:51 PM
A new GTA should have some thief mode. You know, you can sneak into houses, steal ANYTHING and then sell it, like in Oblivion.
Second, destructable buildings. 6 Rocket Launcher rockets +building= ruins=6 stars.

Beast of Bourbon
June 24th, 2008, 03:19 PM
4. More The Sims aspects. Maybe it's out of place for the genre, but I'd like more "real life" demands placed on my character: going to the bathroom and taking showers, being able to situate the furniture in safehouses, having to purchase gasoline for the cars (which would include, of course, the possibility that they'll run out of gas, a nice added touch, I'd think). Stuff like that.

PLEASE YOU´VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!
Dating by it self is tedious enough...so now im supposed to take a shower before i take a girl out (i have to "look out" to wear the right clothes and drive the right car already)???

some people amaze me

or the thing about gas...i mean come on you drive in a city not for hundreds of miles.
Do you really think it would be cool if you had to walk the rest of the way to a mission because the fuel is empty? i would bite into my fist out of hate!

some points are valid though :)
and it should be possible to take more buddys with you than just one at a time (party with all the mates at the stripclub for example?!)

Rebel25
June 24th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Custom radio stations! That would be the awesome being able to load your own songs for a "custom" radio station. Generic DJ talk would make the custom station sick.

Toorok
June 24th, 2008, 03:48 PM
- the mission structure should be changed and make it less the same. it really is annoying doing the same thing all over again.
- i also would like to have access to the whole city at once.
- stop with the phone ringing asking if i want to do something. if i want to do something i'll call them.
- more cities and places in between to visit.
- stuff to do with your money. although i don't like a sim-like approach, i loved the idea of buying a club or something, that actually made money for me (like vice city).
- the police shouldn't be popping up like it does.

hmm i dont think we should be able to "create our own character" in a GTA game... the main character just has to be cool (not like CJ taking **** from anyone)
this is much better in GTA4...
SPOILER
SPOILER
you do some missions for VLAD and then kill him! This was BADASS!
way more people die :)

strange thing is: when you get there he began shouting and everything, but the minute before he was a 100% calm. there's to much emphasis on a character's mood in a scene. it is a bit hard to describe what i mean, English is not my native language. besides, i kinda liked Vlad being bad *** and stuff.

valleyshrew
June 24th, 2008, 05:03 PM
I think they should for once have a female protaganist.
*Cue angry mob telling me how horrible an idea it is*

Seriously now, think about all the unique opportunities this could open up to cover things they couldn't do before. They could have some really interesting choices to make:
You can become pregnant (scripted) and choose to either get an abortion, or give it to your mom/adoption. Playing the story while in the late stages of pregnancy would be funny, you could have 2 headshot hitboxes sort of. Some criminals may be reluctant to fight you.
Seduce your enemies to make them vulnerable.
In story you go out with a guy and he tries to rape you, you can choose to give in or kill him, maybe this would be how you can become pregnant. Turns out he had crime connections and you get to do a few side missions for them, if you kill him you don't get to do them.

Instead of going to a strip club to pay for a dance, you get to be the stripper, make some extra money. Or you can be a prostitute.
Chance for some more unique humour, like a guy could crash his car into you and then get out and blame you because women are bad drivers, he'd be angry and try to hit you so you could kill him or just punch him. He could later turn out to be a prominent character and your decision may affect what missions you do for him.

Anyone else think of reasons this would be good?

Reasons it would be bad: Most males would prefer to play as a male, female violent criminal doesn't seem as appropriate, disturbing, character interaction might feel weird unless your friends are females too which would be unrealistic. No more having fun with guys like brucie and LJ.

Toorok
June 24th, 2008, 05:10 PM
i forgot i would also like to see real time day / night, plus real time season changing. so when it's Christmas you can see snow and decorations the in the city, sunny days in the summer etc. that would be pretty awesomo !

gamecrazy
June 24th, 2008, 05:16 PM
Start by putting everything in it that you had in every other iteration and add more from there. We need some skydiving, car customization, real estate, KILL FRENZIES, gang warfare, aircraft, jet packs, haircuts, pimp missions, courier missions, RPG elements, gangland recruits, MOAR weapons, etc. etc.


You know the stuff that they left out of GTA IV! And last but not least better menus for clothing/accessories!

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 24th, 2008, 05:20 PM
I think they should for once have a female protaganist.
*Cue angry mob telling me how horrible an idea it is*

Seriously now, think about all the unique opportunities this could open up to cover things they couldn't do before. They could have some really interesting choices to make:
You can become pregnant (scripted) and choose to either get an abortion, or give it to your mom/adoption. Playing the story while in the late stages of pregnancy would be funny, you could have 2 headshot hitboxes sort of. Some criminals may be reluctant to fight you.
Seduce your enemies to make them vulnerable.
In story you go out with a guy and he tries to rape you, you can choose to give in or kill him, maybe this would be how you can become pregnant. Turns out he had crime connections and you get to do a few side missions for them, if you kill him you don't get to do them.

Instead of going to a strip club to pay for a dance, you get to be the stripper, make some extra money. Or you can be a prostitute.
Chance for some more unique humour, like a guy could crash his car into you and then get out and blame you because women are bad drivers, he'd be angry and try to hit you so you could kill him or just punch him. He could later turn out to be a prominent character and your decision may affect what missions you do for him.

Anyone else think of reasons this would be good?

Reasons it would be bad: Most males would prefer to play as a male, female violent criminal doesn't seem as appropriate, disturbing, character interaction might feel weird unless your friends are females too which would be unrealistic. No more having fun with guys like brucie and LJ.
That is a really dumb idea. Getting pregnant from a rape and an abortion? This is a freaking raging kill streak mob game, not a fricking soap opera. I respect your ideas, but they have no place for GTA lol.

Ordell
June 24th, 2008, 05:34 PM
PLEASE YOU´VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!
Dating by it self is tedious enough...so now im supposed to take a shower before i take a girl out (i have to "look out" to wear the right clothes and drive the right car already)???

some people amaze me

I'll give you that one. Guess it's just a preference. I happen to like the turn toward realism IV took, and I hope it continues. You're apparently looking for something else. Rock on.

or the thing about gas...i mean come on you drive in a city not for hundreds of miles.Actually, I like to keep the same car for as long as possible. Switching from stolen car to stolen car is cheesy, imo (hence my other point about buying and keeping cars).

Do you really think it would be cool if you had to walk the rest of the way to a mission because the fuel is empty? i would bite into my fist out of hate!What game are you playing? You'd get another car at that point, just as you would if you crashed one. And what's the difference between not having enough gas to complete a mission and not having enough ammo or health?

But anyway, in general, it would do nothing but add an element of challenge: you can't drive a car forever without getting gas. Pretty straightforward, no? Plus it opens up an actual use for the gas stations around the city besides blowing them up.

Saigon
June 24th, 2008, 06:10 PM
i remeber reading a while ago that there will be open missions...what happened to that aspect...people calling to go out on a date is not a mission...but i do like meeting friends on the street...

the GTA's in the past gave more variety with missions and kept things different, such as bringing a posse with you on a mission...what happened to that...

what about adding multiple characters you can play with...

give us the option to become a mob boss if we want by killing certain people...and you can start ordering hits on other bosses...or something...

i figured the chinese mafia or asian mafia (working for them) would be in this version...

the side missions on GTA4 sucked ***...GTA3, VC, SA where much better, bring them back...taxi missions, ice cream missions...abulance...fire...claiming territory...etc...

customizations...what happened, its cool to change clothes, but the variety was minimal...two pairs of glasses...come on...what happened...

what happened to sitting down and eating...

lifting weights or getting fat...

what happened to purchasing businesses to make money...or apartments...houses...we should have been able to purchase cars...

what happened to the garages...

more open buildings...

airplanes...

the list can go on and on...

theJZA
June 24th, 2008, 06:19 PM
All they should do, is have offline co op,like in SA, and the old cheat codes, aka "Civileans weild weapons" and "Civileans go grazy". That was GTA to me

gamecrazy
June 24th, 2008, 06:27 PM
I remember reading stuff way back from the devs of GTA IV. They stated that you would be able to explore most of the city inside the buildings and out. Yet when it comes down to it over 95% of the buildings are still inaccessible. Then there is a carnival that is merely an ornate background. All kinds of buildings look as though they should be storefronts and are inaccessible. The reality of this game is that it was shipped/rushed incomplete.

Saigon
June 24th, 2008, 06:32 PM
I remember reading stuff way back from the devs of GTA IV. They stated that you would be able to explore most of the city inside the buildings and out. Yet when it comes down to it over 95% of the buildings are still inaccessible. Then there is a carnival that is merely an ornate background. All kinds of buildings look as though they should be storefronts and are inaccessible. The reality of this game is that it was shipped/rushed incomplete.

it wasn't rushed or incomplete...they had space limitations...

Apocalypse-
June 24th, 2008, 06:43 PM
make it exactly like san andreas? nuff said.

Nice one mate. I got like 200+ Hours Gameplay out of San Andreas or even more. This is the best Grand Theft Auto series, yet. Hopefully there will be a MASSIVE Improvement in GTA5.

I quite liked the Female option idea. Although i'm not a girl myself i think that would be a nice function for the ladies.:mrgreen:

dakidx
June 24th, 2008, 06:44 PM
I think that most of the stuff u guys are asking for will be in saints row 2 which is coming out in october so we will just have to see until gta4 is all we got (in terms of sandbox)
the only thing i think is gunna suck about SR2 is that its not gunna be story driven like gta

PsychoMantis
June 24th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Firstly make it a PS3 exclusive I think thats what we all wont first and foremost.

gamecrazy
June 24th, 2008, 06:48 PM
it wasn't rushed or incomplete...they had space limitations...

So basically they went to all the trouble of building this beautifully lifelike and humongous city enviroment and all there is to do is go on missions and play bowling/darts. I mean I really dug the art direction in this game. It's a damn shame that they yanked everything out of the game that gave it good replay value.The cybercafe was a good idea but not good enough to replace what they took out. And WTF is with doing away with kill frenzies anyway? So you can focus on "realism"? Whatever that means. I didn't find that being harassed every five minutes by everyone I met to go drinking/dating to be very fun to play or realistic. It got to the point that I literally did not want to meet anyone anymore.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 24th, 2008, 07:06 PM
So basically they went to all the trouble of building this beautifully lifelike and humongous city enviroment and all there is to do is go on missions and play bowling/darts. I mean I really dug the art direction in this game. It's a damn shame that they yanked everything out of the game that gave it good replay value.The cybercafe was a good idea but not good enough to replace what they took out. And WTF is with doing away with kill frenzies anyway? So you can focus on "realism"? Whatever that means. I didn't find that being harassed every five minutes by everyone I met to go drinking/dating to be very fun to play or realistic. It got to the point that I literally did not want to meet anyone anymore.
You can turn off the phone....:idea:

Also, they had space limitations. 360 limited it a lot.

xStatiCa
June 24th, 2008, 07:43 PM
Whatever they do in the future please include GTA Race in it. I play that mode 95% of the time because every race ends up being different. You get people in the lead that are out to complete the race and then you have those near last place where the only way they can get any cash is to kill some people. So you end up with people racing and others out to kill the people racing. Way to much fun. I enjoy both roles and variations of them in GTA Race.

What really makes it nice is that you do not feel cramped or in some kind of enclosed area. You can literally go anywhere you want. You could go a few miles away to snag a car and come back if you wanted. When racing and you crash the possibilites are huge for what can happen. One time I ended up with my car sideways on a billboard. The left side of the car was resting on the walking grate that is right under the billboard up high. I climbed out of the car and used the sign to take shots at the racers as they went by. Way too much fun.

The attention to detail in the cars is really amazing. If you ram into a building it will leave a crack in the wall you hit and damage will be seen on the car precisely where you hit the wall. If you hit a pole the car will be crumpled inward where the pole was just like you would expect. Damage to the car affects the cars driving, blown out tires, broken front axel, etc.

So with all that said I would like to see the GRiD racing engine used for driving in GTA5, RealFlight physics and controls schem engine (rc helicopter sim for PC) used for flying the helicopters :), COD4 engine used for gun fights, etc. Take the best engines available from other games as needed... make an urber game :).

mixpix7212
June 24th, 2008, 07:58 PM
I have been thinking of making this for a while, and decided to just get it over with. Basically, these are all my ideas how to make the next GTA more awesome than IV was. Contribute ideas and post whatever changes and such, then we can get these to Rockstar somehow lol.

First of all, it should be PS3 exclusive. Sure, you could make it on the 360 if you want...but if you change an island or so...you will be switching discs. 50gb of a Grand Theft Auto game...we have seen what they can do with 9gb...think of Metal Gear Solid graphics in a GTA game (Obviously not AS good, but almost..). That would be freaking amazing. They could probably make every building open...way more cars, way more things to do...it would be amazing. Seriously.

Second, more story modes/ways to go. We should get to choose a good guy/bad guy route. Granted, we do in IV, but in the end it plays out the same I think...you still end up doing most of the same missions. We could even have extra characters and such to play as, say if you finished "Bob"'s story, you could then play as another character, "Jim", at the same time Bob was doing something (sorta ties the story in), or right after and you could kill Bob, etc. Stuff like that would be awesome, and with Blu-Ray, there would def. be enough room. Also, make some different missions besides just drive there, kill people, pick up something. I mean, as much as I love it...it could get old in another game. We need missions such as frequent helicopter rides, RC cars with bombs, motocross races, stuff like that. We also need to be able to do missions in many different ways, that would be awesome. Not saying we can't right now, but it would be cool.
Niko was awesome in IV...you felt like you could actually "relate" to him in a way, which you couldn't with any of the other characters. A story where we have even a better character, or even more would be awesome.

Third, we need a WAY better multiplayer. Overall, I think I have played 4 of the multiplayer modes on GTA4, and I don't like them at all. Nobody uses a mic, nobody works together on things such as free roam, death matches are stale, etc....just isn't a good experience. I really expected more, and was disappointed. We need DLC for it as well...maybe a whole new city or something...that would be amazing.

Fourth, we need more customization. Why not let us make our own character? Sort of like the Tony Hawk customizer, we can do his clothes ANY way we want (like maybe have Playboy X's clothes...!? I was mad when I couldn't get them after I killed him! :mad:), his face changed, build, etc. They can still keep the voice and such the same, as we need it to play out in the story mode. We also need to be able to trick our cars out. Now, I never played SA, and don't care about it, but know it had customization. I think it would add a lot to the game. In IV, I don't think it would have fit in as much with the gritty storyline, so I could have cared less. The next game should have it though.

Fifth...one of the most important things...DO NOT CHANGE THE GRAPHICS STYLE! I HATED Grand Theft Auto Vice City and San Andreas mostly because of the graphics schemes...I LOVE THE GRITTY AND DARK LOOK. LEAVE IT ROCKSTAR! Seriously, it looks better. I also love the mob like bad guy story...so much better and easier to get into.

Sixth....set it somewhere awesome, like Chicago or the United Kingdom. I really want a WHOLE new location with a WAY larger map. Liberty City is AWESOME, but you can't make another game right after on it IMO.

:snicker

hey man i think you have some really good ideas. just a couple things though and this is not in any disrespect. but your third thing at the bottom there will not be any DLC for a LONG time. Microsoft bought the rights to DLC for a couple years. and rockstar said there wont be any new islands right now anyways.
and the other thing in your 5th area. i love the new graphics and i never played san andreas. but vice city was done intentionally with the graphics it had. the reason being they were going for an eighties look all bright and flashy. but i like where you are going and again no disrespect.

MrGixxer750
June 24th, 2008, 07:58 PM
For myself, the sportbike fanatic... the motorcycles in this game are completely out of control. What is up with the developers and the motorcycle control in this game?

I mean, you are fishtailing at 10mph if you hit the gas, the wheelies are so hard to control, and the acceleration is unbelievably slow.

I am pretty sure they took the car physics and applied them to the bike without ANY adjustments.

If the bike actually rode like a bike, this game would be my favorite. They screwed bikes up ROYAL STYLE on this game. Too bad.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 24th, 2008, 08:01 PM
hey man i think you have some really good ideas. just a couple things though and this is not in any disrespect. but your third thing at the bottom there will not be any DLC for a LONG time. Microsoft bought the rights to DLC for a couple years. and rockstar said there wont be any new islands right now anyways.
and the other thing in your 5th area. i love the new graphics and i never played san andreas. but vice city was done intentionally with the graphics it had. the reason being they were going for an eighties look all bright and flashy. but i like where you are going and again no disrespect.
Thanks, and I don't take that as disrespect at all.

I know the DLC is a long ways away, (January I think), buy we get it too according to Rockstar...we will see :)

Mansech
June 24th, 2008, 08:08 PM
I thought that they should have kept the old stuff from past GTAs and added to that instead of taking things out and then adding. They need to make it less repetitive and give you more options to complete the missions. Also take out the auto aim it makes it too easy and do something about the carjacking its way too easy. More customization, things to do with money and access to buildings like mentioned above. Being able to go into houses and robbing people while they're inside would be pretty cool.

mixpix7212
June 24th, 2008, 08:17 PM
My g/f wants there to be an option to be a female character. She wants to pimp herself out and work her way to madame status. Kind of scares me and turns me on at the same time.

i want to pimp myself out too. is that wrong??

mixpix7212
June 24th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Thanks, and I don't take that as disrespect at all.

I know the DLC is a long ways away, (January I think), buy we get it too according to Rockstar...we will see :)

awesome. now you have just given me something else to look forward to. im glad microsft didnt get a long term rights deal. i thought it was longer but i am happier than a skitzo in a pharmacy.

thedukeofhawk
June 24th, 2008, 10:36 PM
I think GTA IV is the best in the series here's I what I'd like in V:

1 A lot more choices within missions, i still feel bad about some of the desisions i made in IV!

2 Fueling cars (as stated above) it would add an extra element to the game, and improve the realism, could even add a breakdown service you could call. (and then rob the van instead of paying!)

3 Im not sure about this one myself but, when re starting a mission maybe not have to go back to the part before you drive half way across the city everytime.

4 more different cars would be cool

5 Rivals kicking off on you just for being in their territory like in previous games

Thats all i've got for now..

Two4DaMoney
June 24th, 2008, 10:40 PM
Ideas for the next gta...make it ps3 exclusive and add every single feature possible to truly make a beast of a game.

I don't care what you guys say about this realistic crap, a lot of **** was left out because of the limits on the dvd9 disc.

ThaoNguyen
June 25th, 2008, 01:02 AM
So basically they went to all the trouble of building this beautifully lifelike and humongous city enviroment and all there is to do is go on missions and play bowling/darts. I mean I really dug the art direction in this game. It's a damn shame that they yanked everything out of the game that gave it good replay value.The cybercafe was a good idea but not good enough to replace what they took out. And WTF is with doing away with kill frenzies anyway? So you can focus on "realism"? Whatever that means. I didn't find that being harassed every five minutes by everyone I met to go drinking/dating to be very fun to play or realistic. It got to the point that I literally did not want to meet anyone anymore.
Don't back down. You were right the first time. It was rushed and incomplete. Was that because of the 360? Yeah, probably, but that doesn't make you any less right that it was rushed and incomplete.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 25th, 2008, 01:03 AM
a lot of **** was left out because of the limits on the dvd9 disc.

Exactly what I have been saying since launch.

elegy=skyline
June 25th, 2008, 03:16 AM
I've been trying not to contribute to this thread as I have so many things I want in the next GTA that it would turn into an incoherant stoned rant!!

I can't understand how some people still don't get the idea of gas? IV had the cars conk out when you'd beaten them up but it was rare enough a happening that it didn't really have too much of a negative impact. When you steal a car you'd see how much gas was in it and even if the red light was on it would still be enough to go a few miles. (I would normally say petrol but the first to mention it on the thred called it gas so I kinda feel stuck with it!) My car drinks quite a bit of fuel but it will still do about ten to twenty miles on the red light and I don't hang about!! Granted it's not a big american truck but it is a sports car.

So honestly, running out of gas would be something you'd just do for the hell of it to show your mates what happens. It wouldn't really get in the way on a mission (but it would add some nice tension to those car rides) unless the game wanted it to, say on a mission to drive a car with sod all fuel to a rendezvous, cant get a wanted level as it would mean giving it beans and possibly running out of fuel! Because lets face it, not many people drive around with no fuel in the car, yeah I do but I can't afford the car I've got at the moment, lost my job : (

ThaoNguyen
June 25th, 2008, 03:25 AM
I've been trying not to contribute to this thread as I have so many things I want in the next GTA that it would turn into an incoherant stoned rant!!

I can't understand how some people still don't get the idea of gas? IV had the cars conk out when you'd beaten them up but it was rare enough a happening that it didn't really have too much of a negative impact. When you steal a car you'd see how much gas was in it and even if the red light was on it would still be enough to go a few miles. (I would normally say petrol but the first to mention it on the thred called it gas so I kinda feel stuck with it!) My car drinks quite a bit of fuel but it will still do about ten to twenty miles on the red light and I don't hang about!! Granted it's not a big american truck but it is a sports car.

So honestly, running out of gas would be something you'd just do for the hell of it to show your mates what happens. It wouldn't really get in the way on a mission (but it would add some nice tension to those car rides) unless the game wanted it to, say on a mission to drive a car with sod all fuel to a rendezvous, cant get a wanted level as it would mean giving it beans and possibly running out of fuel! Because lets face it, not many people drive around with no fuel in the car, yeah I do but I can't afford the car I've got at the moment, lost my job : (

You should have let me do it. I'm the queen of incoherent stoned rants. :snicker

TyPiKaL
June 25th, 2008, 04:19 AM
How about Rockstar making GTA 5 without it turning into an epic failure like GTA IV.

gamecrazy
June 25th, 2008, 04:20 AM
Don't back down. You were right the first time. It was rushed and incomplete. Was that because of the 360? Yeah, probably, but that doesn't make you any less right that it was rushed and incomplete.

Fuggin A right it was rushed! They had already missed a series of deadlines before they actually finally released it incomplete. When they pushed it back to April they were under immense pressure to not delay the game any further. Hence why the PS3 version wasn't properly quality tested and full of bugs. Plus it goes without saying that they make fat bonuses if the game does go out by a certain deadline. Maybe that could have influenced their decision to release this incomplete half-baked piece of crap a little bit too. Ya think?

Just out of curiosity does anyone know how much data was put into the X360 disc of GTA IV?

We Are Ninja
June 25th, 2008, 04:21 AM
...First of all, it should be PS3 exclusive. Sure, you could make it on the 360 if you want...but if you change an island or so...you will be switching discs. 50gb of a Grand Theft Auto game...we have seen what they can do with 9gb...think of Metal Gear Solid graphics in a GTA game (Obviously not AS good, but almost..). That would be freaking amazing. They could probably make every building open...way more cars, way more things to do...it would be amazing. Seriously.
I fully agree...

Second, more story modes/ways to go. We should get to choose a good guy/bad guy route. Granted, we do in IV, but in the end it plays out the same I think...you still end up doing most of the same missions. We could even have extra characters and such to play as, say if you finished "Bob"'s story, you could then play as another character, "Jim", at the same time Bob was doing something (sorta ties the story in), or right after and you could kill Bob, etc. Stuff like that would be awesome, and with Blu-Ray, there would def. be enough room. Also, make some different missions besides just drive there, kill people, pick up something. I mean, as much as I love it...it could get old in another game. We need missions such as frequent helicopter rides, RC cars with bombs, motocross races, stuff like that. We also need to be able to do missions in many different ways, that would be awesome. Not saying we can't right now, but it would be cool.
I don't think players should jump between characters. That would hurt the sense of immersion. Different mission types are a must, though.

Niko was awesome in IV...you felt like you could actually "relate" to him in a way, which you couldn't with any of the other characters. A story where we have even a better character, or even more would be awesome.
Agreed. I wasn't overly impressed with Niko in the beginning, but by the halfway point, he was my favorite GTA protagonist.

Third, we need a WAY better multiplayer. Overall, I think I have played 4 of the multiplayer modes on GTA4, and I don't like them at all. Nobody uses a mic, nobody works together on things such as free roam, death matches are stale, etc....just isn't a good experience. I really expected more, and was disappointed. We need DLC for it as well...maybe a whole new city or something...that would be amazing.
IMO, GTA simply isn't a multi-player game. It's best as a solo experience.

Fourth, we need more customization. Why not let us make our own character? Sort of like the Tony Hawk customizer, we can do his clothes ANY way we want (like maybe have Playboy X's clothes...!? I was mad when I couldn't get them after I killed him! :mad:), his face changed, build, etc. They can still keep the voice and such the same, as we need it to play out in the story mode. We also need to be able to trick our cars out. Now, I never played SA, and don't care about it, but know it had customization. I think it would add a lot to the game. In IV, I don't think it would have fit in as much with the gritty storyline, so I could have cared less. The next game should have it though.
More customization in GTA would be good, but it wouldn't have fit Niko; he didn't come across as someone who actually cared about gaudy clothes. But, generally speaking, the more customization options, the better.

I disagree with CAC, though. Saint's Row had a CAC and look at the game's protagonist. He was mute and devoid of any real personality whatsoever (except for his one, single line). That's the beauty of GTA characters. It's characters are always "characters". CJ could only look one way and have his voice fit his character. Niko could only look one way and have his voice fit his character.

Fifth...one of the most important things...DO NOT CHANGE THE GRAPHICS STYLE! I HATED Grand Theft Auto Vice City and San Andreas mostly because of the graphics schemes...I LOVE THE GRITTY AND DARK LOOK. LEAVE IT ROCKSTAR! Seriously, it looks better. I also love the mob like bad guy story...so much better and easier to get into.
Agreed. I enjoy the gritty look of the new GTA.

Sixth....set it somewhere awesome, like Chicago or the United Kingdom. I really want a WHOLE new location with a WAY larger map. Liberty City is AWESOME, but you can't make another game right after on it IMO.

:snicker
Agreed. New York is a pretty awesome game setting, but it's almost claustrophobic... I still think a Yakuza story set in Japan would be nice.

ThaoNguyen
June 25th, 2008, 04:26 AM
Fuggin A right it was rushed! They had already missed a series of deadlines before they actually finally released it incomplete. When they pushed it back to April they were under immense pressure to not delay the game any further. Hence why the PS3 version wasn't properly quality tested and full of bugs. Plus it goes without saying that they make fat bonuses if the game does go out by a certain deadline. Maybe that could have influenced their decision to release this incomplete half-baked piece of crap a little bit too. Ya think?

Just out of curiosity does anyone know how much data was put into the X360 disc of GTA IV?

I also don't think it was entirely caused by the 360. I think the 360 limited its potential severely, causing much of the rushed-and-incompleteness. I think they also just got to a point where they said, "all right, this is taking too long. Screw all these other features, just finish up what we have now so we can get this thing on the shelf and start working on the next one" which may or may not be a bad thing for gamers if it helps to improve the next installment. I suppose only time will tell?

steakline
June 25th, 2008, 04:54 AM
I said this a while back but GTA meets LBP. To be able to design your own missions then post online would give tons of replay.

xStatiCa
June 25th, 2008, 02:12 PM
IMO, GTA simply isn't a multi-player game. It's best as a solo experience.

Agreed. New York is a pretty awesome game setting, but it's almost claustrophobic... I still think a Yakuza story set in Japan would be nice.

IMHO multi-player is the perfect type of game for GTAIV. If GTAIV were designed to only be multiplayer, The missions could be a lot more advanced and entertaining with real people behind all the characters. Not that I want that to happen. I think single-player is just as important but I do wonder how advanced multiplayer could be if 100% resources were spent on it. I truthfully stopped playing single player about 15% into the game and now find myself not playing any other game except multiplayer GTAIV.

A Japan setting would be great. Nice idea.

kryton101
June 25th, 2008, 02:26 PM
GTAIV when I get around to wiping off the dust and playing again has a solid pedegree but one can't help wonder if the solution has gone a bit stale. Personally I was so underwhelmed with GTAIV that I was left wondering what if anything they could add to improve it. Many of the things you quote are just bigger and better aspects and bombs in RC, didn't they do that in some missions already?

Maybe GTA has had it's day. There was a time when 2D side scrollers were the 'thing' and we all craved the next best installment. But times move on and eventually the staleness of the market gives rise a new creative idea.

After 4 GTA games and the hand held versions as well I'm quite tired of what it has to offer now. Even with the quite lovley graphics of GTAIV, in my head I was just going...it's the same as GTAIII, run, drive, shoot, run, drive, shoot.

Maybe developing the 360 version did hold it back. Maybe we would of ended up with more of the same? Either way, the thought of a GTAV doesn't inspire me whatever they manage to tinker, fiddle or adjust next time around.

Karsh
June 25th, 2008, 02:39 PM
I love the idea of a Japan-set yakuza-type game. Great idea on that one.

Obvioulsy we'd all love it to be PS3 exclusive, with DC. I'd like to see more walkway-based transportation, like rollerblades, skateboards, bikes (again), etc. Just to add that little bit of realism, and ofc new ways to do missions etc.

I think the multiplayer is okay, it needs some tweaking, but i think it could both be an amazing solo game and multiplayer game, as long as they do it properly!

T-Dogg400
June 25th, 2008, 02:44 PM
To be honesty i think Rockstar wanted to put it realistic this time, on a 6 wanted star you wouldnt even have the Army attacking you in real-life lol - it was fun back in the day when i was playing San Andreas.
For the new game,they should leave everything in GTAIV but add more things for the next step.I mean add planes(all different styles), more and more friends for contacts and stuff, heck they could even add kids to be more relastic , add more enviorments in the game (desert, grass, buildings mixed together like San Andreas).
There are still more to think of but it depends on the system lol.

We Are Ninja
June 25th, 2008, 03:24 PM
^ Agreed. The series has grown up, and I like the increased realism. I think they should (and most likely will) build off of the foundation created by GTAIV for future iterations, instead of reverting back to the sandbox insanity that was San Andreas.

CodenameD
June 25th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Redo a bigger better San Andreas with a chinatown asian Protagonist. Mix in Triads, Martial arts, and a more dynamic fight system to couple with the shooting.

Outside of that variate the missions a bit more and bring back plane flight.


If it requires it to be PS3 exclusive to do this, so be it, but expand the damn game.

CodenameD
June 25th, 2008, 03:34 PM
^ Agreed. The series has grown up, and I like the increased realism. I think they should (and most likely will) build off of the foundation created by GTAIV for future iterations, instead of reverting back to the sandbox insanity that was San Andreas.
To each his own but San Andreas was more sophisticated than GTA4 to me. I think you're judging it by it's tone more so than what it was as a game. It wasn't just a sand box. And unlike GTA4 the missions didnt feel rehashed. With that said I still love GTA4, but writing off SA as a sand box child is a mistake.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 25th, 2008, 04:02 PM
How about Rockstar making GTA 5 without it turning into an epic failure like GTA IV.
Shutup. Seriously. If you think GTA IV was a failure, then there has GOT to be something loose in that thing you call a brain.

To each his own but San Andreas was more sophisticated than GTA4 to me. I think you're judging it by it's tone more so than what it was as a game. It wasn't just a sand box. And unlike GTA4 the missions didnt feel rehashed. With that said I still love GTA4, but writing off SA as a sand box child is a mistake.
:shock:

More sophisticated? In what way? Going around as a "big bad gangsta" and shooting everyone is more sophisticated than being a gangster/mobster and doing it? NO.

gamecrazy
June 25th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Yet despite the new series "realism" the older one were a hell of a lot more fun to play. I guess realism now is living in a giant city w/ virtually nothing to do besides take nonstop phone calls from your peeps to go to the nudey bar and get completely bombed. Seriously when did GTA become crappy life simulator anyway?

FdMstng99
June 25th, 2008, 05:59 PM
A new GTA should have some thief mode. You know, you can sneak into houses, steal ANYTHING and then sell it, like in Oblivion.
Second, destructable buildings. 6 Rocket Launcher rockets +building= ruins=6 stars.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Maybe have some missions where you had to break into houses to get specific items, like jewelry, wallets, credit cards, etc. Maybe make them like the Stevie missions. Maybe even steal things from cars like radios, sound systems, etc.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 25th, 2008, 06:05 PM
Destructible buildings would be FREAKING AMAZING.

Also, we need a system like this: Say you break a lightpole or fence or something....it just doesn't regenerate backup. Depending on where it is, workers might come out and fix it, or it stays like that. Or, if you spawn from somewhere without a car, don't have the streets deserted (much better in IV than the other games, but still happened sometimes).

TyPiKaL
June 25th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Shutup. Seriously. If you think GTA IV was a failure, then there has GOT to be something loose in that thing you call a brain.
If I was you I'd kill myself.

MMDs
June 25th, 2008, 09:23 PM
destructible Buildings Would Be Freaking Amazing.

Also, We Need A System Like This: say You Break A Lightpole Or Fence Or Something....it Just Doesn't Regenerate Backup. Depending On Where It Is, Workers Might Come Out And Fix It, Or It Stays Like That. Or, If You Spawn From Somewhere Without A Car, Don't Have The Streets Deserted (much Better In Iv Than The Other Games, But Still Happened Sometimes).

That Would Suck Big Time, Imagine Not Being Able To Destroy It Again, Or If The Workers Come Out To Fix Everything And Lets Say You Did An Astounding Amount Of City Destruction Then There Will Be Workers Everywhere In Your Way Cause Massive Traffic Jams, I Dont Think That You Think Some Of This Stuff Completely Through.
Love Some Of Your Ideas Though.

My Idea Is To Create A Gta With Massive Map That Would Include Liberty City, Vice City, And San Andreas All In One Game. And You Could Get To Them By Plane. If They Spent Enough Time On It And It Was A Ps3 Exclusive Then It Could Be Possible And The Game Would Take A Long Time To Beat And Maybe A Good 20 Mins To Get From One City To The Next In A Super Speed Boat But By Plane It Would Only Be Like 3-5 Minutes With Cruiser Ships And Plane Rides Being Able To Skip The Trip To Get There Even Faster. That Would Rule.:-p

ThaoNguyen
June 26th, 2008, 04:10 AM
That Would Suck Big Time, Imagine Not Being Able To Destroy It Again, Or If The Workers Come Out To Fix Everything And Lets Say You Did An Astounding Amount Of City Destruction Then There Will Be Workers Everywhere In Your Way Cause Massive Traffic Jams, I Dont Think That You Think Some Of This Stuff Completely Through.
Love Some Of Your Ideas Though.

My Idea Is To Create A Gta With Massive Map That Would Include Liberty City, Vice City, And San Andreas All In One Game. And You Could Get To Them By Plane. If They Spent Enough Time On It And It Was A Ps3 Exclusive Then It Could Be Possible And The Game Would Take A Long Time To Beat And Maybe A Good 20 Mins To Get From One City To The Next In A Super Speed Boat But By Plane It Would Only Be Like 3-5 Minutes With Cruiser Ships And Plane Rides Being Able To Skip The Trip To Get There Even Faster. That Would Rule.:-p

How much extra time does it take to type like that?

We Are Ninja
June 26th, 2008, 04:39 AM
To each his own but San Andreas was more sophisticated than GTA4 to me. I think you're judging it by it's tone more so than what it was as a game. It wasn't just a sand box. And unlike GTA4 the missions didnt feel rehashed. With that said I still love GTA4, but writing off SA as a sand box child is a mistake.
I'd never write off San Andreas; it was the greatest sandbox-style game ever created, and one of the most significant games of the last generation.
GTAIV was not as big or as bold or as lascivious as San Andreas, but it was definitely more sophisticated. The details, the nuances, the storyline, the life choices; it was a much more mature, cohesive game. It too is a sandbox game, and it's not on the same scale as San Andreas (yet), but it's an excellent start for this generation.

AnzongBoliostro
June 26th, 2008, 04:51 AM
If it was in the uk then they couldn't do all their "genius" satires, then where would they be? Let's be honest it's just easier to satirize america. Though I loved the old one in britan. The only thing I want are more over the top missions, maybe only as optional side missions but I loved tarino and the truth's missions from sa, And better weapons and customization, and better online play, and well I alot more also. So I guess only wasn't the right word to use. Just expand it!

kippers4brkfast
June 26th, 2008, 04:56 AM
Good thread. I would say for me...

More story! and better cut scenes. I thought they could have gone more in depth with it.

I thought the missions were kind meh also. Some where fun, but I got to the end of the game and I was thinking 'this is it?'

I guess overall, just make it more interactive. I thought city looked great and everything in it did also, but I also think there is a lot of room for improvement.

Tetsu
June 26th, 2008, 05:39 AM
Be a Special Agent. Infiltrate a major gang, and then blow the snot out of all of them. Make the city safe for kids again. Anything else and I'll diss on it like I did all the others.

PhillyPhreak
June 26th, 2008, 05:53 AM
This is exactly what I was going to say. Maybe have some missions where you had to break into houses to get specific items, like jewelry, wallets, credit cards, etc. Maybe make them like the Stevie missions. Maybe even steal things from cars like radios, sound systems, etc.
House robberies actually existed in SA. It was a side mission that could be done only at night time and using a specific vehicle ("Boxville" IIRC). You could access specific homes listed on the HUD and take some of their belongings. You had to drop off the items at a safe house in a certain amount of time.

Carsonal
June 26th, 2008, 06:18 AM
Bring back parachutes.
Shoot people on the way down

DreDayDetox
June 26th, 2008, 07:45 AM
hell yes, San Andreas rocked IMO


thank you!, finally someone who see's my vision. GTA4 Blew IMHO. And I thought I was gonna get addicted to it, but gta: san andreas pulled me back more into it, beat it 3 times, and it's still fun to do it over again. I don't care what city they choose for gta5, but please, have the same thing san andreas had, don't change anything.

FdMstng99
June 26th, 2008, 11:25 AM
House robberies actually existed in SA. It was a side mission that could be done only at night time and using a specific vehicle ("Boxville" IIRC). You could access specific homes listed on the HUD and take some of their belongings. You had to drop off the items at a safe house in a certain amount of time.


I forgot all about that. Well maybe in the new GTA they can make it where you can break in at any time of the day and not have a time limit to drop off the items. I always hated the time limits.

marthudson
June 26th, 2008, 12:05 PM
to be honest this GTA hasnt gripped me like the other ones did


maybe the series is getting a bit repetative
maybe COD4 is always on my mind and im addicted to it

i cudnt really tell ya.

but it jsut doesnt seem to have the flare that the others did. definatly missing something. a change of country may be for the best really. but then again who are we to decide what type of game they bring out.:lol:

another guy
June 26th, 2008, 02:54 PM
That's an easy one:
DON'T MAKE IT AN OVER HYPED BORING PIECE OF **** LIKE GTAIV!!!!!! (I just had to get that out lmao)

Jaeger
June 26th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Make it exactly like San Andreas? Enough said.
Are you kidding me? San Andreas is the worst Grand Theft Auto game to date. It tried too hard to be awesome and completely failed. The ability to customise your character was cool, but then Rockstar went too far by adding all sorts of RPG elements, like trying to keep thin and jazz. It completely ruined the series and drove the game away from what it was supposed to be.

I say take the elements from Vice City (location, era, characters, etc.) and put it into next-gen. It would sell.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 26th, 2008, 04:14 PM
No need for that, you know better~Nikhil

elegy=skyline
June 26th, 2008, 04:29 PM
the funny thing about people moaning about all the eating and stuff from san andreas is that you didn't really have to bother.

I gave up eating in the end as all you had to do was save regularly and CJ never got too hungry or slim or anything!!

BlueHarvest
June 26th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Are you kidding me? San Andreas is the worst Grand Theft Auto game to date. It tried too hard to be awesome and completely failed. The ability to customise your character was cool, but then Rockstar went too far by adding all sorts of RPG elements, like trying to keep thin and jazz. It completely ruined the series and drove the game away from what it was supposed to be.

I say take the elements from Vice City (location, era, characters, etc.) and put it into next-gen. It would sell.

A bit harsh if you ask me, SA is the pinnacle of GTA so far in my eyes, it hard the best story the best missions the best location and the most replay value after the story was over, you didn't have to spend all day trying to keep thin and that jazz.

To make a good next gen GTA all they have to do is quite simple, invest in a good story and for the love of god let your character develop into something, i stopped IV after about 50% when;
you had to choose between a rat cop and a snitch who called you boy, niko is a hitman, with no character development, doing hits for junkie snitchs after 30hours? a joke of a story
And whats so wrong about traveling to one or two islands like in gta 1!
So
#a good story
#a decent main character
#bring back most of SA's advancements
#get a decent cover system or drop it altogether
#keep the engine its brilliant
#the graphics in my book do the job
#BRING BACK PLANES AND PARACHUTES!

MMDs
June 26th, 2008, 05:00 PM
How much extra time does it take to type like that?

thats what happens when you leave caps lock on, for some weird reason when submitted instead of posting it as all caps it converts it to all title case words. I had caps on to speed up my After Effects renders.

MMDs
June 26th, 2008, 05:00 PM
oops double post, hate when that happens

BlueHarvest
June 26th, 2008, 05:13 PM
And my most hated thing about all the GTA's that needs to be fixed, if you are in one type of car, then all you see are those types of cars, you might never see a turismo but steal one from the dealer and thats all your gona see,

MMDs
June 26th, 2008, 05:20 PM
And my most hated thing about all the GTA's that needs to be fixed, if you are in one type of car, then all you see are those types of cars, you might never see a turismo but steal one from the dealer and thats all your gona see,

I kinda like it that way though cuz if you are driving a turismo and you wreck it you can just jump into another. But your right they do need to tone it down just a tad cuz if you're at a light and every car stopped at the light is a freakin turismo then its annoying.

BlueHarvest
June 26th, 2008, 05:40 PM
I kinda like it that way though cuz if you are driving a turismo and you wreck it you can just jump into another. But your right they do need to tone it down just a tad cuz if you're at a light and every car stopped at the light is a freakin turismo then its annoying.

well i kinda used turismo as an example and in all honesty was never that pissed of to be able to get into a new one! The problem is when you are in some slow old piece of crap and that's all that's around you!
Its been happening since 1 and it should be sorted by now!

MMDs
June 26th, 2008, 05:51 PM
well i kinda used turismo as an example and in all honesty was never that pissed of to be able to get into a new one! The problem is when you are in some slow old piece of crap and that's all that's around you!
Its been happening since 1 and it should be sorted by now!

yeah i agree, they definitely have to fix that, it just needs some fine tuning so its not as strong. I notice that everytime you jump in a car like that all you see is that car sprinkled with a few taxis and cops here and there and a tiny pinch of a different car parked off the side of the road or driving. I actually got pissed a couple nights ago while playing and driving around an old beat up jallopy and i couldn't find a somewhat decent car to jump into and ditch the POS.

captain chris
June 26th, 2008, 08:11 PM
Personally, i didn't really like the dark, gritty graphics. It was too dingy and depressing. My favourite graphics style was vice city's, that was cool.
They have to get rid of the endless phonecalls, taking friends out gets boring after awhile and it takes too long.
More things to buy, it was stupid not having a safehouse in Dukes/Broker after the.. ahem..incident. I liked the assett properties in VC.
A totally different location, preferably with countryside. Countryside rocks! It's more exciting exploring it instead of the city.
More collectables. pigeons were stupid, every time i shot one the police chased after me.
The return of Bounce Fm!
Thats all i have at the moment.

Buddha
June 26th, 2008, 11:52 PM
i'm a big fan of san andreas, but IV was good. I think the bigest thing for me was the freaking hand break. Was it just me or was taping the hand break in IV throwing the car 180 degrees?

Anyway all these are good ones, just for me, "fix the handbreak" please....

xStatiCa
June 27th, 2008, 12:25 AM
The handbreak works well with IV for me. It just takes very light taps on it to help turn and immediately turn the wheel the opposite wheel direction (how much depends on how much you turned initially and how long you held the handbreak) to slide into the turn. If you hold it and keep turning the same direction you are turning then yea... you are going to do a 180.

I don't use the break unless I have to though because you can loose traction which takes some time to get back again when you straighten up. I try to use it as little as possible by taking wide turns going over the sidewalk as needed(straighten up when going over the sidewalk though for that second or you can end up going up in the air and turning too much).

I have GRiD and GT5 Prologue but I really get the most fun out of GTA IV in GTA Race mode.

Chaozhoutiger
June 27th, 2008, 07:42 AM
It should take place in a future metropolis, that way you can steal flying cars lol j/k

ThaoNguyen
June 28th, 2008, 04:50 AM
It should take place in a future metropolis, that way you can steal flying cars lol j/k
That's the best idea I've ever heard ever, ever.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 28th, 2008, 04:55 AM
I really would HATE a future GTA.

We Are Ninja
June 28th, 2008, 05:30 AM
GTA2 was set in "the future" and it was easily the worst game in the series...

ThaoNguyen
June 28th, 2008, 05:34 AM
GTA2 was set in "the future" and it was easily the worst game in the series...
That's because it didn't have flying cars.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 28th, 2008, 07:14 AM
No, GTA2 was actually very good. I say San Andreas was the worst, or maybe Vice City...one of them.

Two4DaMoney
June 28th, 2008, 07:23 AM
:lol: at the thought of an over the top view grand theft auto game being better than vice city or san adreas.

GuitarrassDeAmor
June 28th, 2008, 07:26 AM
Have you ever played them? They were very good in their days. Maybe I was being a little over zealous, but SA and VC do suck.