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Scotracer
June 8th, 2008, 03:16 AM
Formula 1 has for the past 50 years been the epitome of speed, glamour and excitement in the world of sport. It has held its head high as the technical masterpiece that it was. Through F1 alone we have seen a number of life-saving devises being developed; from ABS to traction control to seatbelts. Along with this you had ever advancing mechanical machines capable of ever-increasing speed and cornering capabilities. It was awe-inspiring, the rate of development.

Well, it used to be that way. F1 in recent years has turned into an overly political mess run by bureaucrats who should have retired decades ago, that are bringing my beloved sport into disrepute. Max Mosley, a self-involved, aged dinosaur with his own agenda overpowering this once noble sport, I am beginning to see the end of what I have watched with shiny eyes for almost 15 years.

Over the decades since its formation, F1 has evolved from frightening 10litre+ aircraft engined monsters to small, nimble oversized go-karts and, with the onset of aerodynamic understanding into what can only be described as very low flying aircraft. But one thing has remained constant through this process -- freedom to develop and grow within the regulations stipulated. Well, it saddens me to say but it looks like these days are numbered. With ever-increasing costs and an over-bearing, unjust environmental mindset it looks like F1 will be neutered and never be allowed to spread its seed again. In the last 10 years, the cars engines have been regulated from 1.5litre Turbo-charged missiles (in qualifying trim producing more than 1400BHP), to 3.5litre, smooth V8s and V12s to screaming 3.0l V10s once again approaching the 1000BHP barrier to finally what we have today, the 2.4l V8 strangled in its prime. This is demonstrated by this quote from Pat Symonds, Technical Director for Renault:

...we’ve got to integrate a modern engine, a cheap engine – because at the moment, unfortunately, we’ve frozen a very very expensive engine, an engine that’s capable of doing much more than it does at the moment.

That quote almost brings me to tears. What has my sport become that a top works team has to lay off its engine development workforce because the Bureaucrats feel that engine development is too costly? That's not Formula 1. The engines are strangled, strangled by archaic rules that are not in any way justified. These engines currently produce around 800BHP at their rev limit (rev limit in F1?!?!) of 19,000rpm. These engines were frozen in 2006 and will be for a further 5 years. It's pathetic. It makes me sick. I don't mind what the engine regulations are, as long as the designers are free to evolve the engines over time, making leaps and bounds over just a year previous.

And what does the future hold? In 2009, we have dramatically different technical regulations (ones which have STILL not been made accessible to those in the engineering profession -- myself included) which include a drastic drop in aerodynamic downforce (50% cut on todays levels) as well as more homologated parts (for the first time aero will be homologated in some form). On the bright side, slick tyres will be returning after their ban in 1998 (which was designed to increase overtaking but as ever by the FIA, it was a short-sighted move and it actually made the cars more nervous and made overtaking even more difficult). This should be some consolation for the reduction in aerodynamic grip and keep lap times on a similar level. Along with these changes, KERS (Kinematic Energy Recovery Systems) will be allowed to be used for the first time. This basically means F1 cars will be Hybrid. It is purely a political stunt and will not improve the racing in any form. The money wasted on this already old technology could have been put into something more cutting edge or useful for the sport.

For 2013 we have proposed changes to the powertrain once again. From the current 2.4l V8s we will likely change to 1.3l 4-cyl turbos with much more advanced KERS/HERS. I really do fear for this future as the trade mark this sport has held for the past 15 years has been it's distinctive sound. Gone will be the high-pitched, ear-piercing scream that the current cars, to be replaced by what I can only guess will sound like your average youth get together on a Friday night down the local Mall. Fast and the Furious meets F1. It's disgusting. If this all comes into play, with even more homologation and cuts, I will be done with the sport. It wont be F1. I barely is at this minute.

So, on the eve of the Canadian Grand Prix (which will most-likely be canceled because the damn Canadians can't even lay some tarmac properly) I will say this: F1, may you rest in peace - we barely knew thee.

Here lies F1 (1950-2006)

Xelis
June 8th, 2008, 10:42 AM
The fact is F1 hasn't been better, lower teams are starting to compete against Ferrari and McClaren, Ferrari have dominated the past 10 years in F1 and something had to change, if they kept up with the engine development Ferrari would be steaming ahead even further leaving the lesser teams struggling behind with cost issues and unltimately having to drop out. Maybe I haven't a clue what Im on about, but the fact remains, look at yesterdays qualifying for example, sure there were loads of marbles on the track and it was breaking up but..

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren (1st, Q1 - 1m 17.886s)
Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber (2nd, Q1 - 1m 18.498s)
Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (3rd, Q1 - 1m 18.735s)
Fernando Alonso, Renault (4th, Q1 - 1m 18.476s)
Nico Rosberg, Williams (5th, Q1 - 1m 18.844s)
Felipe Massa, Ferrari (6th, Q1 - 1m 19.048s)
Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren (7th, Q1 - 1m 19.089s)
Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber (8th, Q1 - 1m 19.633s)
Rubens Barrichello, Honda (9th, Q1 – 1m 20.848s)
Mark Webber, Red Bull (10th, Q1 – no time)

You wouldn't see a grid as shaken up as that 5 years ago.

Bosconian
June 8th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Have to disagree with the original post. I've been watchine F1 for a fair few more years than you matey and can say it hasn't changed as much as you are trying to make out. It has always been highly political, there have always been restrictions in place - they just get shuffled around.

A lot of the restrictions they brought in were introduced partly to make the cars safer and make tragedies less likely. You can hardly blame them for that.

I first got into F1 when I was just 3 years old some 32 years ago now. It wasn't as drastically different then as you are making out. It's just as exciting today as it was then and still has as many haters as it did then who say it is just one long procession.

THUGGEDOUT
June 8th, 2008, 12:24 PM
I'm not too much of a F1 watcher but the one thing that was surprising to me was the whole racial incident that happened with Lewis Hamilton. people wearing monkey suites in the stands. That is something I didn't think I would hear about in racing, of course I am not sure if this has happened before with another racer...

Xelis
June 8th, 2008, 12:47 PM
I'm not too much of a F1 watcher but the one thing that was surprising to me was the whole racial incident that happened with Lewis Hamilton. people wearing monkey suites in the stands. That is something I didn't think I would hear about in racing, of course I am not sure if this has happened before with another racer...
Thats Spain though, they are known for there racism, they did it to Shawn Wright Philips a few years ago when England played Spain.

On topic, I cant wait for 2010, when the new aerodynamics come into effect to make following cars easier and making overtaking alot easier.

Scotracer
June 8th, 2008, 02:04 PM
The fact is F1 hasn't been better, lower teams are starting to compete against Ferrari and McClaren, Ferrari have dominated the past 10 years in F1 and something had to change, if they kept up with the engine development Ferrari would be steaming ahead even further leaving the lesser teams struggling behind with cost issues and unltimately having to drop out. Maybe I haven't a clue what Im on about, but the fact remains, look at yesterdays qualifying for example, sure there were loads of marbles on the track and it was breaking up but..

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren (1st, Q1 - 1m 17.886s)
Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber (2nd, Q1 - 1m 18.498s)
Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (3rd, Q1 - 1m 18.735s)
Fernando Alonso, Renault (4th, Q1 - 1m 18.476s)
Nico Rosberg, Williams (5th, Q1 - 1m 18.844s)
Felipe Massa, Ferrari (6th, Q1 - 1m 19.048s)
Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren (7th, Q1 - 1m 19.089s)
Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber (8th, Q1 - 1m 19.633s)
Rubens Barrichello, Honda (9th, Q1 – 1m 20.848s)
Mark Webber, Red Bull (10th, Q1 – no time)

You wouldn't see a grid as shaken up as that 5 years ago.

Well if you look at the 2003 Canadian Grand Prix, it was actually a very close race with a Ferrari, 2 BMW Williams and a Renault and the race finished with less than 10 seconds covering the top 4. Great race. The reason this qualifying result was so messed up was that the tarmac was actually coming apart during the 3rd session. The track isn't suited for F1 cars -- they have too much grip.

Have to disagree with the original post. I've been watchine F1 for a fair few more years than you matey and can say it hasn't changed as much as you are trying to make out. It has always been highly political, there have always been restrictions in place - they just get shuffled around.

A lot of the restrictions they brought in were introduced partly to make the cars safer and make tragedies less likely. You can hardly blame them for that.

I first got into F1 when I was just 3 years old some 32 years ago now. It wasn't as drastically different then as you are making out. It's just as exciting today as it was then and still has as many haters as it did then who say it is just one long procession.

I did cover that. The rules have changed over the past 30 years but at no point was development actually stopped within any set of rules. The FIA is turning the sport into a homologated series and it's totally against the ethos of F1 itself. I hate it.

Thats Spain though, they are known for there racism, they did it to Shawn Wright Philips a few years ago when England played Spain.

On topic, I cant wait for 2010, when the new aerodynamics come into effect to make following cars easier and making overtaking alot easier.

They are changing for 2009, actually :)

wunderless
June 9th, 2008, 09:30 PM
So you would prefer to see F1 eat itself?
Allowing 2 teams to run away with it, would essential do that. This is going to bring more competition to the sport. In the past couple years you could call who was going to win with alarming accuracy. Now it's healthy competition and exciting.
While I agree that it was a platform for innovation, and that is being restrained. I think now they will have to find innovation in new areas. You are looking at it from a design stand point, and while I respect that, if you look at it from a spectator stand point it changes.
But then again that's my opinion.

nuffmon
June 9th, 2008, 09:50 PM
The worst thing in F1 are abs, traction control and ruddy grooved tyres!!! Who ever brought in grooved tyres needs a good kickin'. Anyway, we're nearly there.

P.S. Sorry, i was wrong. Max Mosley is, and he needs to step down sharpish.

Scotracer
June 10th, 2008, 08:34 PM
The worst thing in F1 are abs, traction control and ruddy grooved tyres!!! Who ever brought in grooved tyres needs a good kickin'. Anyway, we're nearly there.

P.S. Sorry, i was wrong. Max Mosley is, and he needs to step down sharpish.

Well ABS has been banned for 14 years, Traction control was banned for 2008 and the grooved tyres are going for 2009 :D

SharkOutofWater
June 10th, 2008, 08:53 PM
yes, monico was fun to watch this year without the traction control in the rain