RGB Full and Superwhite!

[maniccow]

Ok so i am seeing alot of threads about this and i thought would combine everything in one. cos i would have to reply to two threads!

Right
Super white DOES NOT work in PS3 GAMES and if you have your video output set on RGB not | Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr . The | Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr is for DVD and BLU-RAY ONLY.
PS3 GAMES PLAY IN RGB and XMB. Super White is for | Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr.

My settings are RGB Full and Super white on and video mode to YBG for DVD and Blu-ray. I can use RGB full because i have a black setting and it makes it balanced on my tele. Some TV'S do not support this and cause black crush!
The test
http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Brightness.jpg (http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Brightness.jpg)
save that and veiw it on Full and Limited mode if in Full mode you just see a black area no matter how much you ajust your tv then your tv does not support it!

Super white seeing the difference?
Grab any blu-ray disk (Not sure if all have it) and anywhere during the blu-ray disk press the digits "7669" it will now display a secret menu! use the test patterns to adjust setting but for me without super white on i cannot see some of the level of whit e and just display as a flat color (at the bottom of the screen) also without | Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr cannot see all of these as well

BIG NOTE THAT IN THE SETTING IT SAYS PS3™ | Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr Super-White (HDMI) (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/superwhite.html) <---- Hmm it say Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr meaning it does not work in RGB mode and NOT in game all in the title reallY

[aayman_farzand]

by black area do u mean i shouldnt c the 1234 at all? i see them at FULL, the 1 is a bit difficult to see, but you know its there. after adjusting the brightness, i can see it properly. so my TV supports FULL RGB? and is there any other way i can do the Super White test? i dont have a bluray movie.

[maniccow]

The picture test if for RGB Full and from what ive read if you can ajust it to see it then it should be fine on RGB FULL.

THX DVD...
another way is using a old THX DVDs e.g. Star Wars. On the THX Brightness test screen try it with Super white on and super white off. One should either make the drop shadow behind the THX log appear or dissapear it should be visible...(The drop shadow that is)

[shadovvarrior]

err...
my laptop is connected to my tv display... so i opend the link...nd now what ??
most of my tv settings cant be changed coz i am using PC input now from my laptop....but what exactly is the Full/Limited mode...
I own a Sony Bravia V3100 40inch btw, if that helps you in answering my question a lil better.

Thanks

[maniccow]

I mean using the PS3. So download the image to the PS3 and view via HDMI and in video option on the ps3 it has RGB FULL/LIMITED and Superwhite on/off etc

This is for HDMI only

[shadovvarrior]

ahhh :)
hmm...wait lemme transfer it...
wish we cud transfer files via bluetooth like in BT enabled phones....

[aayman_farzand]

ok thanx for the help manicow

Edit: u might want to add this to ur original post as well. http://nicolaspeople.com/ch3rokeesblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/fullrgb_test.thumbnail.jpg thats another FULL RGB test. if the tv supports FULL RGB, then you'll be able to see all 28 boxes, maybe not the first 2 on the top left. you might need to adjust your brightness to see it.

[Nunalho]

Those numbers to use in a BD are not working..!

Edit: its working.

[kalishnikov]

A great test mentioned in another thread to show the difference between RGB Full and Limited is if you have Warhawk, scroll to it on the XMB. In the bottom right corner of the screen theres a grate in the floor (just under the logo) and its only visible if you've selected the proper settings as it's very dark.

Again I read this in a different thread on the topic and just thought I'd mention it keeping with the topic.

Good post though OP, I knew a bit of this information but I bet many here don't. Properly set up Display options make a world of difference in gaming and movie watching, that goes for both the PS and your TV (especially if its HD).

[seebs]

On what basis do you conclude that games are not in standard component mode? Most televisions with component ins don't process RGB signals on that port.

[Kane]

"I can use RGB full because i have a black setting and it makes it balanced on my tele" - Huh?
"PS3 GAMES PLAY IN RGB and XMB" - Huh?
"Some TV'S do not support this and cause black crush!" - Huh?

Why didn't I understand even half of what he said?

[vipergts2207]

by black area do u mean i shouldnt c the 1234 at all? i see them at FULL, the 1 is a bit difficult to see, but you know its there. after adjusting the brightness, i can see it properly. so my TV supports FULL RGB? and is there any other way i can do the Super White test? i dont have a bluray movie.

Here is how to correctly test if your monitor is able to actually use RGB full without causing black crush. Set the PS3 to limited at first. Set your tv so that you can see all of the numbers but can just barely see the 1. Now change the PS3 to full. If you can see all 4 numbers then congratulations your tv/monitor supports Full. If not sorry, but set it back to limited because your tv doesn't support Full, that is unless you like losing detail. Most tv's aren't going to support full, it's more for monitors.

[keefy]

my tv Sony Bravia kdl-2623000 doesnt support it, all i see is a black screen when testing FULL :(

[ThaoNguyen]

what are supper white used for?

[chugs]

Well i give my dodgy layman explanations here http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?p=2887139#post2887139

however hisame's explanation is far superior (but alot more technical) - http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=74680

[ThaoNguyen]

okie thanks so much for explanation! :)