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Saigon
May 6th, 2008, 04:35 PM
thought this was a good article...read and give your thoughts...surprised it took so long...looks like this could lead to legalized DLC in the future...

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&article_id=12667

Author: CHRIS TRIBBEY
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Posted: May 5, 2008
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HOLLYWOOD, Calif. — Fritz Attaway, EVP of the Motion Picture Association of America, heard plenty from peer-to-peer network operators such as BitTorrent, Limewire and Vuze May 5 at the P2P Media Summit.

He just didn’t hear much that he liked.

“I didn’t hear a lot that helps convince consumers to move to the legal business model, instead of the theft-based business model,” he said during the first day of the spring Digital Hollywood event at the Renaissance Hollywood Hotel. “Both legal and illegal content .

“I don’t think that’s a choice you should be offering. … This industry just has to decide where its future lies. If it lies in the distribution of legal content, discourage access to illegal content.”

The third-annual P2P summit, hosted by the Distributed Computing Industry Association, brought together P2P operators, Internet service providers and content companies to wrestle over how Hollywood can monetize a medium that many people long have been using for free.

“This is not a new thing with us, adopting technology,” said Derek Broes, SVP of digital entertainment for Paramount Pictures. “It’s the association with theft that we despise … pirates for pirates.

“That’s our interest in P2P … that everyone play nice.”

Paramount has certainly tried — and succeeded — when it comes to digital distribution. Last year’s [I]Jackass 2.5 was available first as an online, free streaming video, and then as a for-pay digital download, VOD and DVD. That was a Hollywood first.

“After it was available for free, it did extremely well ,” Broes said. “That’s a great example of what you can do when you give it to the consumer for free and then give them the opportunity to enjoy it in more traditional formats.”

Broes expressed a concern about P2P that was common all day from content owners: There are so many different file-sharing companies operating on different protocols and offering different levels of free vs. for-pay content.

“None of you are going to be successful if you don’t work together,” Broes scolded P2P operators.

Limewire, one of the more popular P2P networks, is making headway in the ad-supported download realm.

“And we think this is a global solution,” said Limewire CEO George Searle.

Still, others argued that the studios are as much responsible as the P2P networks when it comes to consumers choosing paid-for content.

“If I search for [I]Iron Man, what type of experience, what do I need, to click on the legal results?” asked Joey Patuleia, co-founder of Brand Asset Digital, which markets and brands digitally distributed content. “[The studios] need to understand the lifestyles of these consumers … [and] provide a more value-added experience.”

Ted Cohen, managing partner of TAG Strategic and former SVP of digital development for EMI Music, said: “It’s a tough period right now. Everyone’s got to make deals, long-term, if we’re going to get through this awkward transition from physical distribution to digital.”

AndyD
May 6th, 2008, 05:13 PM
If they offer good alternatives to illegal P2P, including legal P2P, then people would actually use it. Dont put heavy DRM. Offer good quality and reasonable prices. Illegal P2P will never go away, but the point is not to eliminate it, but to steer people who are willing to pay into the pay model, and there is nothing you can do about those unwilling to pay (they never will).

MiNiMaL_sAnItY
May 6th, 2008, 05:15 PM
MPAA: Ending Illegal Downloads is Up to P2Ps
wat

Thats like saying "stop smoking!" to a cigarrette addict.

Xelis
May 6th, 2008, 05:20 PM
If this is to work they dont want to make people jump through hoops for the download to work ie having to download multiple bits of software, putting in serials etc etc, basically a pay, download and play scheme.

madhi19
May 6th, 2008, 05:24 PM
Yeah right! We are going to stop just because you want to! lolll Considering all the crap that the MPAA has done to p2p users over the years all I got to say is. "Go to hell!" And that because I censure myself on this. Hell! Why not give it BSG style. "MPAA Go frack yourself!"

Grinchy
May 6th, 2008, 07:29 PM
One of the only reasons to download TV shows is because then you don't have to watch 10 minutes of commercials in a 30 minute show. If there was a service where you could pay a monthly fee to download high quality TV shows without commercials (maybe the site could be littered with ads if they wanted) then I would pay for it. TV disgusts me now because I can't stand the commercial breaks so I almost never watch TV on a TV.

As far as movies go...I dunno what they should do. It's a tough situation. Personally I'd rather have a disc and watch it in high quality.

madhi19
May 6th, 2008, 08:27 PM
I rarely get movies that are already released what am looking for with p2p is workprint and early version leaked month before something is released! And the very rare stuff you can never find in store anymore.

Morganator
May 6th, 2008, 10:00 PM
Frankly... I'd never download a show of any kind off the internet. I think pay-per-view or pay-per-machine-view type services are a complete rip-off especially with it's false advertisement scheme going on. I will always rather have a physical copy over a virtual license. These so called services are just another form of control.

acmtalk
May 7th, 2008, 06:21 PM
well, First if all, How much do their make per movie released in DVD or Bluray? well I find hard to believe that A movie that sells for 14 bucks The studios prob make a fraction of it, Since all the label costs etc... so first of all , They should not charge the price of a dvd for a Downloaded movie, 2nd DRM free is the way to go (if people want they can get it anyways illegally), 3rd give options for quality, DVD rips varies from size depending of the quality of movie, A near "perfect DVD rip with a 5.1 Dolby, is usually 1.2GB, But you can still get a great quality movie Down to 500 to 700MB by having it in 2ch stereo... people would buy them in a reasonable price, But no one will pay a price of a DVD for them.

the_End
May 7th, 2008, 06:26 PM
Well now, that's sorta interesting. It's up to the P2P's now? :lol:.