Government Itself Won’t Swear To Official Theory of 9/11

[Carsonal]

Well theres that...and theres the Aaron Russo/Nick Rockefeller discussion prior to the event even taking place.
We'll brush that aside as well.

George Washington
OpEd News
May 5, 2008


While many people question the government’s conclusions about 9/11, rest assured that the government agencies tasked with investigating 9/11 are confident that the government’s answer to the following questions is correct:

(1) How could a rag-tag bunch of hijackers penetrate the strongest military in history and disable normal defensive procedures?

(2) How could 3 super-strong, over-engineered buildings become the first modern steel-frame high-rises in history to collapse due to fire, falling at virtually free-fall speed, and exhibiting many indications normally associated with controlled demolition?

At least the government itself is confident about the answers to these questions, right?

Well, actually:

• Bush, Cheney and all other key officials refused to testify under oath, and Bush and Cheney would not even speak to the 9/11 Commission unless they did so together (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4862296/)

• The 9/11 Commission admits that the U.S. military intentionally lied about what happened that day, the Commission reached conclusions based on political considerations (http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/12/they-dont-believe-it-why-do-you.html), and that its conclusions were largely based on third-hand information conveyed through military spokespeople about what severley tortured, crazy people supposedly said (http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/12/911-confession-falls-apart.html)

• NIST admits "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse" (http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695275973,00.html)

• FEMA admits that its best hypothesis for why WTC 7 collapsed has only "a low probability of occurring" (http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695275973,00.html)

It is not very reassuring when the professional whitewashers (http://http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/11/governments-911-investigators-were-also.html) tasked with defending the government’s version of what happened on 9/11 themselves willing to swear to that version.



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George Washington (http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/) George Washington is a pen name. I am using the pen name, with the approval of the publisher, because I have received death threats due to my 9/11 research and writing. I am using a pen name to protect myself and my family.

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[sonyfan6]

Why are you making more posts on this subject? You are just spamming the boards right now.

[Carsonal]

The truth is spamming - since when?

[sonyfan6]

A) I in no way concede the point that what you are posting is the truth. It's not the truth. It's not only BS but a lot of it has extremely racist components. Infowars and similar sites don't care one bit about the truth. They only care about making wild accusations. The 'theories' that they announce are not self consistent, definitively showing that they have no regard for the truth. They only care that the accusation supports their agenda.

B) Since you already created a dozen threads on the subject. it's spam You are avoiding discussion and are spamming your point of view. Engage people in discussion and it will not be spam. Post a thread, refuse to engage in discussion and post a new thread=spam. Furthermore, at this point you may as well just post a link to infowars since you aren't adding any commentary not found there. Without your own commentary you are just advertising for fringe groups. The politics forum is for serious discussion of issues not spamming advertisements for your favorite blogs.

[Carsonal]

The politics forum is for serious discussion of issues

That would make sense if politics were as simple as you seem to think they are.
Ultimately its just debating sci-fi or movie plots.

[sonyfan6]

This forum has previously been home to excellent political discussions. Currently you are completely spamming it. If you disagree with what is being said, say so and explain your position. Right now you are just destroying the forum with your relentless spam.

Don't be a lazy coward. Take the time to write up what you think and use supporting evidence. Right now your posts amount to nothing more than advertisement, done to the point of spam.

[Carsonal]

Sitting around arguing over political campaigns, healthcare and military issues is like sitting around arguing over imaginary friends.
As important or interesting as that may be, it just doesn't work the way conventional thinking says it does.

I'm only trying to hit that point home and get this stuff viewed, if not by just a select few who are interested, instead of "why do you love obama?" or "why is McCain so great?" or "X politician wins Y bull**** election".

Prior to my threads and those of a couple of others, this stuff was never discussed, never spoken about and any mention of it was struck down with a bitter motion of anger and denial.

So my continuing threads, of which come from the brilliant truthwars and associated sites, are here to at least put a little bit of reality in a political section which was once just a puff and yawn area.

[sonyfan6]

Sitting around arguing over political campaigns, healthcare and military issues is like sitting around arguing over imaginary friends.
As important or interesting as that may be, it just doesn't work the way conventional thinking says it does.

I'm only trying to hit that point home and get this stuff viewed, if not by just a select few who are interested, instead of "why do you love obama?" or "why is McCain so great?" or "X politician wins Y bull**** election".

Prior to my threads and those of a couple of others, this stuff was never discussed, never spoken about and any mention of it was struck down with a bitter motion of anger and denial.

So my continuing threads, of which come from the brilliant truthwars and associated sites, are here to at least put a little bit of reality in a political section which was once just a puff and yawn area.

Just because you don't want to discuss politics doesn't give you the right to act as a forum destroyer.

If you were not a lazy coward you would have the guts and spend the time to put yourself out there by writing up your own arguments and making your own points. Right now you are advertising. You are doing nothing but advertising. Do not pretend to be high and mighty. You aren't bringing hidden truths to light. You are advertising for a fringe group. It is not a group motivated by truth. It is politically motivated and will post any accusation, even conflicting ones, as long as they support its goals. There is nothing special about a site that promotes its own agenda. You are not special for advertising it.

No one is telling you that you cannot discuss this stuff. However, the manner that you are doing it is the manner of spam, advertisement and forum destruction. I am extremely disappointed that the moderators of this forum have not taken steps to correct this behavior. Write your own arguments and link evidence if you choose. Without your own arguments your links are just advertisement, pure and simple.

People on this forum have shown a willingness to discuss what you are bring up. So far you are the one that refuses to discuss these topics. You do not respond to discussion. You do not make arguments. You just post links to more articles directing people to the websites that you are advertising. As of the time of this post 9 out of the 10 most recent threads are ones started by you advertising other sites. That's spam. Choose a topic, write up your points and engage in debate. Even Roadkill, who started a topic denying the holocaust was allowed to have his say. No one is going to stop you from making your point no matter distasteful people find it. They do demand that you engage people on the topic.

[Carsonal]

I'm not on here 24/7, so responding to all threads isnt something I can just do at the drop of a hat.
I understand that a number of my threads I dont chip into more than just the OP, but most of them dont get more than a couple of responses. Thats alright with me though.

If you want me to respond more I'll try and do that more frequently, but I'm not going to stop bringing this stuff to light.
Whether you refuse to believe it or not, I couldnt care less.

[sonyfan6]

No one expects you to be on here 24/7 to respond. What we do expect is for you to include your own thoughts in your OPs. Your OPs contain nothing from yourself. They are essentially just links to another website. If you want to make a 9/11 thread, spend the time and make a post about it making your point and explaining your side. You can even post quotes from other websites supporting your points. If you spend the time to do this, you will find that you get more responses and get better discussion on the subject. If you just post a quote from another website and repeat that procedure six times a day then the majority of your threads will be ignored and all you are doing is spamming the forum.

Spend the time to write what you have to say. You'll get a better response and a more engaging discussion than just posting quotes from other websites.

Further if you limit yourself to keeping only a couple topics at a time you will have deeper discussion and have more time to write more meaningful responses. When a topic dies down feel free to start a new discussion.

As I said earlier, I'm not trying to silence you. I'm trying to promote serious, in depth discussion of topics that are of interest to the users of this board. Rapid firing quotes from other websites inhibits that.

Do us all a favor and give it a try.

[Vulgotha]

Lol. Carsonal, you're going to have to stop. You really are spamming this site with worthless crap.

Most of it from infowars.com.

[Pipes75]

I still luv ya Carsonal - and I don't mind debating neither - I am open to endless possibilities and I take alot of shots for expressing my views but I do respond on alot of Carsonals threads :)

I can understand why he doesn't put his own views out there thats because the ignorance to any possible cover ups is overwhelming - Its like everyone really thinks the government would never lie. I compare 9/11 to JFK and I haven't heard anyone try telling me Oswald was the only shooter, but no one makes any comment on JFK when I do compare the 2. I believe the mass population does believe JFK was a cover up but I don't know if thats a fair assumption or not, if it is then the public HAS to be aware that cover ups are in the government history so why they think 9/11 couldn't be I still don't know. I have posted in favor of conspiracy theories in the past, but most recently I have been more on the cover up side then anything - to me covering up is a conspiracy in itself. If the government was aware, and didnt try to prevent then that is just as bad even if they didnt get there hands dirty. I definetly don't believe the official story and I don't mind taking critisism for my views - I also like to get into our greater purpose as well and many think I'm nuts when I get goin but I can tell you one thing - there are more of me then you think just alot are afraid to speak up.