Obama's pastor attacks US elite for dodging military service

[Carsonal]

Of course they dodge.
They know whats going on


By Nedra Pickler
in Washington

IN A defiant public appearance yesterday, Barack Obama's former pastor said that criticism surrounding his fiery sermons is an attack on the black church in the United States and rejected those who have labelled him unpatriotic.
"I served six years in the military," the Reverend Jeremiah Wright said. "Does that make me patriotic? How many years did (vice-president ****] Cheney serve?"

Rev Wright spoke at the National Press Club in Washington to reporters and a supportive audience of black church leaders beginning a two-day symposium. He said the black church tradition is different and misunderstood by the "dominant culture" in the US.

He said he hopes the controversy "just might mean that the reality of the African-American church will no longer be invisible".

"It is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright – it's an attack on the black church," he said to applause.

Rev Wright said criticism comes from people who only have heard soundbites playing repeatedly on television and have never listened to his entire sermons.

He said members of the congregation at his Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago have fought in the military, including in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"My goddaughter's unit just arrived in Iraq this week while those who call me unpatriotic have used their positions of privilege to avoid military service while sending over 4,000 American boys and girls to die over a lie," he said.

Rev Wright seemed to relish the chance to speak out after weeks of being derided in the press.

He has been Mr Obama's pastor for more than 20 years. The preacher brought Mr Obama to Christianity, and inspired the title of his book The Audacity of Hope. He officiated at his wedding and baptised his daughters.

Rev Wright also told reporters that he prayed privately with the Obama family before Barack announced he was running for president.

http://news.scotsman.com/world/Obama39s--pastor--attacks.4028999.jp

[One-Shot]

Who cares if he was in the military before he is a loon now. While Obama is probably just being a politican but at least he is now smart enough now to denounce his dispicable comments. Wright should just go to his mansion next to all those rich white people he dislikes and chill.

[Carsonal]

Yeah **** that nutcase.
Never mind the fact that he's actually saying something sane.

[One-Shot]

Yeah saying the govenment infected black people with aids is real sane....

[Carsonal]

Dont change the quote, we're talking about American elite not taking part in military conflicts in this thread.

If you can actually say that you dont mind that the social garbage of the US gets dished out overseas to warzones while the blue bloods get away from service, it would only be confirming just how deep political programming goes.

[Lord Arklon]

Dont change the quote, we're talking about American elite not taking part in military conflicts in this thread.

If you can actually say that you dont mind that the social garbage of the US gets dished out overseas to warzones while the blue bloods get away from service, it would only be confirming just how deep political programming goes.
Caustic and biting...like most truths are, which is why some people have such a hard time accepting them.

[weskurtz81]

Ummm, are we talking about American elites who don't serve? Who the hell cares? Let them not serve, it's not mandatory. Now, of course we had draft dodgers back in the Nam era, but today, he who doesn't want to serve, doesn't have to.... simple as that.

[Lord Arklon]

Ummm, are we talking about American elites who don't serve? Who the hell cares? Let them not serve, it's not mandatory. Now, of course we had draft dodgers back in the Nam era, but today, he who doesn't want to serve, doesn't have to.... simple as that.
Agreed, but you're missing the point. The point is, many rich, upper-class faux-patriots are parading around feigning support for the troops and the war, yet they themselves aren't encouraging their children to join. How can you so boldly support something that you have no desire..absolutely no desire...to be a part of?

[Lefein]

Agreed, but you're missing the point. The point is, many rich, upper-class faux-patriots are parading around feigning support for the troops and the war, yet they themselves aren't encouraging their children to join. How can you so boldly support something that you have no desire..absolutely no desire...to be a part of?

Eventually we'll have to go the Starship Troopers route. There is a whole generation of armchair generals waiting to send the working class into the battlefield over whatever. They can pick up an American flag and wave it in your face, but they won't pick up a gun and defend the flag.

Service should gaurantee citizenship. Plain and simple.

[lordmadjack]

*sigh* Micheal Moore tried this same crap in Farenheight...

Funny he omitted a couple of the supposed "elites" admitting thier kids WERE doing service and that they were very proud :rolleyes:


That priest IS a loon, and a radical racist to boot!

[One-Shot]

Agreed, but you're missing the point. The point is, many rich, upper-class faux-patriots are parading around feigning support for the troops and the war, yet they themselves aren't encouraging their children to join. How can you so boldly support something that you have no desire..absolutely no desire...to be a part of?
So just because a politician supports the troops and the war means it is mandatory for them to force thier children to join to be genuine? As long as they arent forbidding thier children from signing up whats the problem? The lack of sense never ceases to amaze me. Well if you really want someone who knows war then no one better than McCain.

[Carsonal]

The Insanity.

The day has come that war is a popular vote draw.

I'm out.
I can't actually participate in threads with people like this.
Its like poison for the soul.

[Lord Arklon]

So just because a politician supports the troops and the war means it is mandatory for them to force thier children to join to be genuine? As long as they arent forbidding thier children from signing up whats the problem? The lack of sense never ceases to amaze me. Well if you really want someone who knows war then no one better than McCain.
Don't put words in my mouth. No where did I say or even imply that it should be mandatory.

My point is that I liken them to drug dealers.

What does a drug dealer do? He coaxes and continually attempts to persuade people to buy and use things that he will never, EVER touch in his life, because in his mind, he knows better. Don't get it twisted and try to say that I'm saying that the military is some kind of detrimental drug, either. This is simply what I believe the mentality of some of these so-called elites is.

How are these politicians any different? Sure they shouldn't have to join the military, but they had better quit pushing others to do it and patronizing the folks that do so. It's quite evident that many of them don't care about military folks, because many politicians simply to refer to the military as numbers or statistics.

Military folks have families, personal lives, spouses, and genuine concerns that shouldn't be shrouded in the patronizing, faux-honorific rhetoric that is spewed out 24/7...but it constantly is.

[weskurtz81]

Agreed, but you're missing the point. The point is, many rich, upper-class faux-patriots are parading around feigning support for the troops and the war, yet they themselves aren't encouraging their children to join. How can you so boldly support something that you have no desire..absolutely no desire...to be a part of?

Well then, why leave it just to the elite? How many people do you know who support the war, and have not served, or don't plan on serving? The elite do not have a monopoly on this type of behavior, and I don't know why people can't understand this. I know MANY people who support the war, yet don't serve, don't plan on serving, and wouldn't want their children to serve for fear of them dying. Big deal.... there are people who are cut out for it, others who aren't.

[DayWalker]

if there was a draft you can bet your life that the war would be over tomorrow...

it'd be nice to see people put there money where there mouth is... :?

[Reagan1981]

Does this guy ever worry about stuff in his own country, i mean he does live there right?

[weskurtz81]

if there was a draft you can bet your life that the war would be over tomorrow...

it'd be nice to see people put there money where there mouth is... :?

It's just a fact of life man. It happens all over the world, it's just human nature. I am not saying it's right, just saying it is just going to be that way, no matter where you live.

Does this guy ever worry about stuff in his own country, i mean he does live there right?

Who?

[SymphonyX]

I don't understand why this is still an issue with Obama. Obama already denounced his involvement with comment made by Wright but people are still putting the two together. Everytime im bored and flipping threw channels they keep saying Obama's pastor said this and that (Mainly Fox). I also see why alot of High Society skiped out on the draft back in the 60;s/70's and were not punished for it. Also I heard that if you ever served in any type of military, that you must retire at 65 yet we have McCain running for the most important job for Americans that is being president at 73.

[Vulgotha]

What? You people are surprised? Welcome to the "Flower" and "Dove" generation ruling your politics.


Wake up.

[weskurtz81]

I don't understand why this is still an issue with Obama. Obama already denounced his involvement with comment made by Wright but people are still putting the two together. Everytime im bored and flipping threw channels they keep saying Obama's pastor said this and that (Mainly Fox). I also see why alot of High Society skiped out on the draft back in the 60;s/70's and were not punished for it. Also I heard that if you ever served in any type of military, that you must retire at 65 yet we have McCain running for the most important job for Americans that is being president at 73.

The reason it is still an issue is because most people think this is how Obama really feels. If he didn't agree with his pastor, he wouldn't have been going to that church. Also, the argument is, that even after denouncing the pastor's comments, that Obama once again downplayed the comments.

Also, I am pretty sure that you can still hold a government position after the age of 73. Just look through the senate, Byrd has to be at least 73.

[DayWalker]

The reason it is still an issue is because most people think this is how Obama really feels. If he didn't agree with his pastor, he wouldn't have been going to that church. Also, the argument is, that even after denouncing the pastor's comments, that Obama once again downplayed the comments.

Also, I am pretty sure that you can still hold a government position after the age of 73. Just look through the senate, Byrd has to be at least 73.

yup- the brilliant people of this country who thought 8 years of Bush was a great idea. now believe the Obama is a muslim, terrorist, racist, elitist, non-patriot. :roll:

it is any wonder why are country is in its current state?

What an embarrassment...