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THUGGEDOUT
April 21st, 2008, 08:13 AM
So I'm reading a short article on a new actress added to the cast, onlytofind that McG is in the directors chair. Now, when I had heard Chrisitian Bale signed onfor this to play John Conner I was stoked, but now seeing McG as the director doesn't seem to make it as exciting anymore. Anyway here is the article...
Moon Bloodgood, who starred in NBC's short-lived series "Journeyman," is in final negotiations for the female lead in the fourth installment of the "Terminator" movie series.
She will join Christian Bale, Sam Worthington and Anton Yelchin in the "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins," which is set for a summer 2009 release via Warner Bros.
Bloodgood will play a no-nonsense and battle-hardened member of the resistance who is carrying a lot of guilt over surviving the nuclear holocaust.
Principal photography is set to begin May 5, with "Charlie's Angels" director McG at the helm.
SOURCE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080421/film_nm/terminator_dc_2)
darky89
April 22nd, 2008, 11:32 AM
Well, i definitely don't think this should be made as without arnie there's no point.
Leave it a trilogy. But alas, hollywood has secured another victim.
McG as director, i know he's the producer for The O.C and Supernatural, and i love both of those series', as for director i looked on IMBD and have only seen Charlies angels, and thought it was ok.
Tbh, it's most likely doing to be a bit crappy and never reach the hights of T2, or 1, but if McG does as good a job of this as with O.C and Supernatural than it might be worth a look.
http://imdb.com/name/nm0629334/#director
THUGGEDOUT
April 22nd, 2008, 05:23 PM
Well, i definitely don't think this should be made as without arnie there's no point.
Leave it a trilogy. But alas, hollywood has secured another victim.
McG as director, i know he's the producer for The O.C and Supernatural, and i love both of those series', as for director i looked on IMBD and have only seen Charlies angels, and thought it was ok.
Tbh, it's most likely doing to be a bit crappy and never reach the hights of T2, or 1, but if McG does as good a job of this as with O.C and Supernatural than it might be worth a look.
http://imdb.com/name/nm0629334/#director (http://imdb.com/name/nm0629334/#director)
Well it's mainly because of Charlie's Angels that I gasp at him directing T4, I'm sure James Cameron had a vision of where Terminator would go and why he either wasn't approached or didn't want to be involved in T3 is beyond me. I would have even settled for the dude that directed T3 but we will wait and see what happens, who knows maybe we may get lucky and he will quit!
Xelis
April 23rd, 2008, 03:37 AM
Moon Bloodgood, thats an awesome name and shes hot too, Charlies Angels director.. I cant say Ive seen all of the movie, not my type of movie, so I cant comment of the director, but Bale hasnt been in a dud film yet.
MiNiMaL_sAnItY
April 23rd, 2008, 03:43 AM
I have read a script floating around online, and I thought it was amazing and tied up the storyline surprisingly well. But I think they're using that script in the sarah connor chronicles, so terminator4=fail for me. Unless they pull some wizardry out of their ***.
Drunken Ninja
April 28th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Moon Bloodgood, thats an awesome name and shes hot too, Charlies Angels director.. I cant say Ive seen all of the movie, not my type of movie, so I cant comment of the director, but Bale hasnt been in a dud film yet.
I take it you haven't seen Equilibrium? Or what about Reign of Fire?
Hunnter
April 28th, 2008, 05:10 PM
Hmmm, i'm not sure how this one will go...
A 4th film in a series usually always ends up going pear-shaped... i could so go a pear right now, but i'm too comfy to move :lol:
lalaland
May 6th, 2008, 09:48 PM
I take it you haven't seen Equilibrium? Or what about Reign of Fire?
Hey, don't diss Reign of Fire. (lool dargons rool guys wtf) XD
I love Christian Bale to pieces, but yeah, I think claiming he hasn't been in a "dud film" yet is a bit of a stretch.
I'm holding back judgment on T4. I do think Bale's able to pick and choose his roles now, and is turning down tons of offers, so there had to be something special about T4 to attract him. I'll keep my fingers cautiously crossed.
Xll Angelus Xll
May 6th, 2008, 10:25 PM
Hmmm, i'm not sure how this one will go...
A 4th film in a series usually always ends up going pear-shaped... i could so go a pear right now, but i'm too comfy to move :lol:
I dont think Terminator 4 will go pear shaped. I think it will be a really good film.
lalaland
May 27th, 2008, 04:27 PM
I dont think Terminator 4 will go pear shaped. I think it will be a really good film.
Well, principal photography's looking cool. If nothing else, it'll have Christian Bale (!) and it'll look awesome, and to me that's worth an afternoon at the cinema.
RedDragon7
May 27th, 2008, 07:24 PM
Yep, that's about how I size it up. A cool action flick with Christian Bale. It'll be fun to watch if nothing else. May not be a classic, but we'll find out.
lalaland
May 27th, 2008, 09:27 PM
Yep, that's about how I size it up. A cool action flick with Christian Bale. It'll be fun to watch if nothing else. May not be a classic, but we'll find out.
Man, I remember when hardly anybody knew Christian Bale, unless you were actually a movie person. I remember jumping up and down and trying to drag my friends out to go see Reign of Fire, saying "It has Christian Bale in it!!" and getting blank looks until I caved and said "NEWSIES, guys!" At which point they all went "Ohhhhh!"
Still, he's a great actor (and god, so hot) so it's really good people know who he is now, and that he's getting all these awesome roles. I may well die of anticipation, waiting for Dark Knight, augh.
grcswoosh
May 27th, 2008, 09:46 PM
Christian Bale and McG on the same film is really conflicting for me. It is like having a movie directed by Scorsese starring Carror Top. I don't know whether to start waiting in line now, or start picketing now.
Bale is so perfect for the role, dark, cold, engaging, and intelligent. McG is so not the right tone, he is too "fun". Terminator is not about fun. Charlies' Angel is the exact oppisite in the action genre.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, my head is going to explode.
THUGGEDOUT
May 27th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Christian Bale and McG on the same film is really conflicting for me. It is like having a movie directed by Scorsese starring Carrot Top. I don't know whether to start waiting in line now, or start picketing now.
Bale is so perfect for the role, dark, cold, engaging, and intelligent. McG is so not the right tone, he is too "fun". Terminator is not about fun. Charlies' Angel is the exact oppisite in the action genre.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, my head is going to explode.
Yep, this is exactly what I was thinking as well, it just doesn't sound like a good combination. The period this film takes place in the Terminator timeline is not going to be a fun place. I can just see it now...a T-101 is walking towards Bale in the post apocalyptic setting and then suddenly Bale backflips his way toward it, then does a mid air twist kick taking off its head...
Stewie Skywalker
May 27th, 2008, 10:36 PM
What the hell are you people talking about? Christian Bale is a fantastic actor much better actor than McG is a director are you insane. Movies like Empire of the Sun, American Psycho, The Machinist, 3:10 to Yuma, Batman Begins/The Dark Knight. Seriously do your Christian Bale hw before you slag on him.
Here's a Christian Bale Interview
http://men.style.com/details/blogs/thegadabout/2008/05/christian-bale.html
lalaland
May 27th, 2008, 11:16 PM
What the hell are you people talking about? Christian Bale is a fantastic actor much better actor than McG is a director are you insane. Movies like Empire of the Sun, American Psycho, The Machinist, 3:10 to Yuma, Batman Begins/The Dark Knight. Seriously do your Christian Bale hw before you slag on him.
I think they're digging at McG, rather than Bale. They're just saying that McG's directing will be a waste of Bale's acting talent, requiring him to do childish Charlie's Angels type stunts in the middle of what should be a serious movie.
I agree that the style of Charlie's Angels would be totally ridiculous for Terminator. That said, I'm a firm believer that different movies require different things of directors, and that it's quite possible for a director to rise to the occasion.
McG executive produced Supernatural, which is certainly not "fun," in the way that Terminator 4 shouldn't be "fun". Not saying McG's the best choice, but I don't think all is lost, certainly.
grcswoosh
May 27th, 2008, 11:24 PM
What the hell are you people talking about? Christian Bale is a fantastic actor much better actor than McG is a director are you insane. Movies like Empire of the Sun, American Psycho, The Machinist, 3:10 to Yuma, Batman Begins/The Dark Knight. Seriously do your Christian Bale hw before you slag on him.
Here's a Christian Bale Interview
http://men.style.com/details/blogs/thegadabout/2008/05/christian-bale.html
Yes, as lala said we are talking about McG, not Bale. I love Bale, Batman and The Prestige are 2 of my favorite recent movies because of him.
Bale will have to act as McG directs him too, so that is the scenario ThuggedOut is talking about. 180mph wheelie on futuristic motorcycle into a 360 endo all while shooting and taking out 15 T100's. Then skidding to a stop and flipping open his helmet to reveal the cigar in his mouth and his smirk.
Bale is good, but he is at the whim of the director, I mean Harsh Times was really bad and it had nothing to do with Bale's talent. bad director = bad vision = bad movie.
Stewie Skywalker
May 27th, 2008, 11:33 PM
Sorry for the misinterpretation I thought the same exact thing when I thought of McG doing T4. I was infuriated, I'm like this is TERMINATOR 4 like you so have to get a top director to come and touch this not McG.
lalaland
May 28th, 2008, 03:19 PM
Bale will have to act as McG directs him too, so that is the scenario ThuggedOut is talking about. 180mph wheelie on futuristic motorcycle into a 360 endo all while shooting and taking out 15 T100's. Then skidding to a stop and flipping open his helmet to reveal the cigar in his mouth and his smirk.
Bale is good, but he is at the whim of the director, I mean Harsh Times was really bad and it had nothing to do with Bale's talent. bad director = bad vision = bad movie.
Yeah, unfortunately the days of the actor getting to tell the director "Hang on, I'm not doing that" are pretty much gone. In Star Wars, for example, Harrison Ford ad libbed most of his memorable lines at the express disapproval of George Lucas (The infamous "I love you!" "....I know." exchange comes to mind) and Carrie Fisher rewrote considerable chunks of the script because the dialogue was so horrifying. It's not entirely gone -- just look at Johnny Depp in the original Pirates. All that characterization was him being ridiculous, while Verbinski ran around behind him going "Wait... tone it down... oh god, the critics are going to kill me..."
All we can hope for, really, is that Christian Bale's got the cahones to stop McG if the directing ever does get over the top. Guess we'll see!
THUGGEDOUT
May 28th, 2008, 03:47 PM
My only other concern is that they do not try to water this franchise down and try to make it for all audiences. I guess though if you try to look on the positive side for McG is that, if a director can choose different genres of movies and consistantly bring out a good end result, like say Ridley Scott or Spielberg. But he or us will not know until he tries...
lalaland
May 28th, 2008, 03:54 PM
My only other concern is that they do not try to water this franchise down and try to make it for all audiences. I guess though if you try to look on the positive side for McG is that, if a director can choose different genres of movies and consistantly bring out a good end result, like say Ridley Scott or Spielberg. But he or us will not know until he tries...
Well, it is possible to make a movie for all audiences without completely dumbing it down. Just look at Serenity. But as you say, I think it is definitely a challenge, and with McG it might be he takes the easy way out and falls back on special effects and Bale charisma.
the_End
May 28th, 2008, 07:46 PM
This movie is going to suck....really bad! The only reason why I would see this is because Christian Bale is in it, amazing actor. They have a ****ty director and Bale won't be at this top because of this. Oh, not to mention I read in the paper that they are going to go for a PG-13 rating so they can get younger kids to see it and buy the toys :cuss:.
lalaland
May 28th, 2008, 08:09 PM
This movie is going to suck....really bad! The only reason why I would see this is because Christian Bale is in it, amazing actor. They have a ****ty director and Bale won't be at this top because of this. Oh, not to mention I read in the paper that they are going to go for a PG-13 rating so they can get younger kids to see it and buy the toys :cuss:.
Yeah, the PG-13 rating is what did me in. As you say, I'll see it for Bale, but probably not in theaters if I have to pay for it. Maybe get the SO to take me, but certainly not spending my money on it. :?
grcswoosh
May 28th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Well, it is possible to make a movie for all audiences without completely dumbing it down. Just look at Serenity. But as you say, I think it is definitely a challenge, and with McG it might be he takes the easy way out and falls back on special effects and Bale charisma.
Serenity was not for everyone, it barely made it's money back. I liked it, but not a lot of people have seen it. I just think McG is the wrong way to go, Terminator has a very specific tone and every thing after T2 seems to be going away from that tone and in turn not being that successful.
T3 was good but was missing something.
Sarah Conner chronicles is OK, but it is too much like "The OC".
T4 seems to be another step away and I don't think it will be good.
This movie is going to suck....really bad! The only reason why I would see this is because Christian Bale is in it, amazing actor. They have a ****ty director and Bale won't be at this top because of this. Oh, not to mention I read in the paper that they are going to go for a PG-13 rating so they can get younger kids to see it and buy the toys :cuss:.
PG-13? PG-13? PG-13?
See, this is what I am talking about! SC Chronicles is going mainstream and now a PG-13 movie. F**king bull**it! Make a different movie, don't ruin this franchise. Soooo weak!
How can a Terminator movie be PG-13??????
http://funboxcomedy.com/uploaded_images/Head-explodes-big-761152.jpg
lalaland
May 28th, 2008, 08:47 PM
I didn't mean that Serenity was wildly successful -- I meant within the film itself, I thought the balance was good between making it accessible to people who hadn't scene the show, as well as appealing to those who had.
Yeah. Pretty much my reaction to the PG-13 thing, too. :(
the_End
May 28th, 2008, 09:27 PM
I know, I don't understand how this is going to be PG-13. What are they going to do? No swearing, little blood, friendly terminators, there just going to ruin it. Terminator has always been R rated and that's how it should be.
lalaland
May 28th, 2008, 09:42 PM
I know, I don't understand how this is going to be PG-13. What are they going to do? No swearing, little blood, friendly terminators, there just going to ruin it. Terminator has always been R rated and that's how it should be.
Well, there's always hope... just, well, maybe not much here. :(
THUGGEDOUT
May 28th, 2008, 10:04 PM
PG-13 for a Terminator flick, wow so that's why they picked McG. Well they did this with Die Hard 4 and even though it had good action, to me John Mclane was never in it.
lalaland
May 28th, 2008, 10:06 PM
PG-13 for a Terminator flick, wow so that's why they picked McG. Well they did this with Die Hard 4 and even though it had good action, to me John Mclane was never in it.
I'm pretty much opening myself up to total flames here, but I've never actually seen Die Hard 1-3, only Die Hard 4. I thought it was fun, had good action and stuff... but I can see where the character would be a bit more real if he were allowed to say whatever he wanted.
RedDragon7
June 1st, 2008, 09:24 AM
PG-13 for a Terminator flick, wow so that's why they picked McG. Well they did this with Die Hard 4 and even though it had good action, to me John Mclane was never in it.Why do you say that? It had all the over the top action as the first films. I thought it was very good, especially for a revived franchise like Indiana Jones.
T3 was pushing it. More CGI than i would've liked and it didn't seem as thrilling as the first two. Now this one is PG-13.... it could be the new Hulk. I'll feel bad for Bale if it does, but I really hope it's not as bad as it appears to be.
As far as McG, he produces Supernatural which is a rather gritty and grotesque show. Although he did a fun action film with Charlie's Angels, I think he could take T4 back its gritty war-torn roots. Just because Charlie's Angels was more light-hearted doesn't mean he'll do the same thing for T4. However, that's just a guess, and me being hopeful for T4.
Hunnter
June 2nd, 2008, 04:07 PM
PG-13?!?! DAMN HIM TO HELL!
THIS WILL SUCK NOW!
Woo, yet ANOTHER name ruined...
In before this ends up becoming the next "American Pie". (seriously, i never even realised there were other movies released until i saw them on TV)
the_End
June 2nd, 2008, 10:29 PM
Ok, this film may actually be good for a few reason. So here's news I found over at the SuperHeroHype thread for this movie:
1. Christian Bale, of course everyone knows this and he should be great.
2. Jonathan Nolan's advice on the script. Yes, I said it. Nolan gave them advice on the script, ****ing awesome!
3. Anton Yelchin will be playing Kyle Reese.
4. Bryce Dallas Howard has been casted as Kate Connor.
So, will this actually work now as a PG-13 movie? Nolan's given them advice so hopefully. Here's the official blog: T4 Blog (http://rss.warnerbros.com/terminatorsalvation/)
lalaland
June 2nd, 2008, 10:33 PM
Ok, this film may actually be good for a few reason. So here's news I found over at the SuperHeroHype thread for this movie:
1. Christian Bale, of course everyone knows this and he should be great.
2. Jonathan Nolan's advice on the script. Yes, I said it. Nolan gave them advice on the script, ****ing awesome!
3. Anton Yelchin will be playing Kyle Reese.
4. Bryce Dallas Howard has been casted as Kate Connor.
So, will this actually work now as a PG-13 movie? Nolan's given them advice so hopefully.
Yeah, I got a little happy when I heard about Bryce Dallas Howard. All hope is not entirely lost. I may be convinced to go see it. I'll wait to see the trailers.
THUGGEDOUT
June 2nd, 2008, 10:50 PM
Well its good to see that McG has been speaking to Cameron, Schwarzaneggar and Nolan. One thing though, is this taking place before the T-101 is created, it would have to be right as now that I think about it there are to be 2 more movies after this, But I'm wondering it would all point back to John sending back the T-101 which is Arnie, unless of course they plan on deviating the story...
grcswoosh
June 2nd, 2008, 10:51 PM
Bryce Dallas Howard? Anton Yelchin?
Tell me why this is good.
Bryce Dallas Howard? Another girl character? This is risky, Sarah Connor was a rare awesome female badass. To create another one is going to be hard, the TV show hasn't shown it yet, and being PG-13, I don't think they will pull it off here. Opies daughter is not a badass.
Anton Yelchin? We'll see, I don't see him being the tough, grimey Kyle. This kid has played goofy, awkward roles. I don't see him as this kind of character.
They may be OK, but I just don't feel hopeful.
The real problem is the PG-13 crap.
As mentioned above, Die Hard 4 was good. However it was not true to Die Hard and especially John McClane. I mean Die Hard 1 is 10 time better than 4 (and probably 2&3) because McClane was so New York. New York cops are not PG-13. They should have just made it a movie by itself. It had nothing to do with the Die Hard "world".
The Terminator world is even less PG-13 than NY cops, and this just blows my mind. How can you have PG-13 Terminators??? It cannot be true to the Terminator image. I get the feeling this is going to be an "emotional departure" from the series and only have a few lame action scenes, with no blood or cursing. You cannot have a war without blood and heavy cursing, it does not happen. I predict epic fail.
Having said all this, I will still go see it. At least, to have proper knowledge when I flame it. I give it 1/50 to be good. 1/400 to be great.
THUGGEDOUT
June 2nd, 2008, 10:57 PM
Why do you say that?
If you're referring to my John McLane statement, I think grcswoosh has summed it up perfectly for me...
RedDragon7
June 2nd, 2008, 11:24 PM
As mentioned above, Die Hard 4 was good. However it was not true to Die Hard and especially John McClane. I mean Die Hard 1 is 10 time better than 4 (and probably 2&3) because McClane was so New York. New York cops are not PG-13. They should have just made it a movie by itself. It had nothing to do with the Die Hard "world".I know this is debatable so I won't try to convince you or state anything as fact. My view though is that in the movie he mentions his previous history dealing with these kinds of situations. His divorce is mentioned in this one. I know previous movies aren't required to see this one but the "Die Hard" world is mentioned in it.
I don't know what to say about the NY cop part. Less swearing and less blood yea... maybe it's just me but that stuff wasn't necessary in Die Hard 4. Pretty much how they wrote it just didn't necessitate it.
Maybe it's just my expectations. All I was looking for was some kick-*** action with a badass John McClane. And that's what I got out of it.
Anyway, I'm glad Nolan is giving advice to McG for T4. They should take that further just have Nolan write the movie :) Better yet... write AND direct! ...but that won't happen :(
grcswoosh
June 2nd, 2008, 11:34 PM
I know this is debatable so I won't try to convince you or state anything as fact. My view though is that in the movie he mentions his previous history dealing with these kinds of situations. His divorce is mentioned in this one. I know previous movies aren't required to see this one but the "Die Hard" world is mentioned in it.
As you said all this is just my opinion of course...
Yes, but it felt like they crowbarred them in just to have that connection. It didn't really effect anything in the movie, like in the first one.
I don't know what to say about the NY cop part. Less swearing and less blood yea... maybe it's just me but that stuff wasn't necessary in Die Hard 4. Pretty much how they wrote it just didn't necessitate it.
I strongly disagree here, the original John would have been very annoyed and pissed off at the kid and he would have let him know it with viscous swearing, same goes for the terrorists who brought America to its knees. Also towards the end, the smart John would have known not to take a slow *** rig up against a friggin fighter jet ;)
And blood is always good and necessary in these movies.
Maybe it's just my expectations. All I was looking for was some kick-*** action with a badass John McClane. And that's what I got out of it.
Kick ***: yes
Bad *** John McClane: No, the original McClane was much badasser ;)
Anyway, I'm glad Nolan is giving advice to McG for T4. They should take that further just have Nolan write the movie :) Better yet... write AND direct! ...but that won't happen :(
Yes, all this is good, but I'll bet you $1000 that at the top of the list of all their advice is this:
1. Don't make it PG-13!
2. No shooting stunts on a motorcycle doing an endo, please.
RedDragon7
June 3rd, 2008, 07:42 AM
I could completely jump on the band wagon with one though and say blood is a definite requirement!! Especially since this is getting into the actual war, PG-13 will definitely shine through... in a bad way.
the_End
June 21st, 2008, 03:09 AM
Description of a possible teaser trailer http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37157.
It opens with footage of people out in every day life. Christian Bale voiceovers
something like:
"I always knew it would happen"...
Than a pause...
"They told me I could stop it."
The same people begin looking to the sky....
"That I could save us".
Looks of horror come across their faces as he says,
"They were wrong".
Music rises as we cut to black for a second. The Terminator theme starts, with the duh duh, duh, duh, duh.
NEXT SUMMER appears on the screen...
We get a quick shot looking out over a sunny desert, and then a shot of Bale, in badass commando uniform and very recognizably the same guy who plays Batman, being lowered into a huge bunker of weapons.
THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE
rolls across, and we get mixed clips from inside one of the survivor bunkers as seen in Terminator 1 - but they look more concentration campish; very crowded, shots of Bale walking with a large crowd. And then the word...
BEGINS.
The music quickly rises as we get shot of a huge truck racing down a high way, a shot or two of a helicopter flying mixed with more close ups of the actors when Bale whispers, "They're coming".
It all goes quiet.
Massive drums blare the beginning of the theme (again) but this time much louder, more pumped up, as we get a metallic silver T that morphs into a 4.
We then get the big money shot of the trailer. Its Bale on a motorcycle with some girl on the back. They speed through a door of what looks like a warehouse toward us. As soon as they pass the screen, a huge terminator on wheels, a lot like the one they battle in the first one, smashes through the wall, chasing them. It looks awesome.
It then says:
Memorial Day 2009.
I was not a big fan of T3 aside from the ending, but this looks really good.
acidhead89
June 21st, 2008, 03:38 AM
am i the only one that liked T3? i thought it was awesome although it could've been more violent and darker i still like it.....oh and as for T4 not being good if arnolds not in it wtf? he is like 65 how the f#$% is he gonna do it hugh the best u can hope for is a cameo...so lets not be so ignorant
RedDragon7
June 21st, 2008, 03:48 AM
am i the only one that liked T3? i thought it was awesome although it could've been more violent and darker i still like it.....oh and as for T4 not being good if arnolds not in it wtf? he is like 65 how the f#$% is he gonna do it hugh the best u can hope for is a cameo...so lets not be so ignorantHarrison Ford in Indiana Jones IV. It's definitely possible.
Although, I don't understand why Arnie has to be in this to be good. he was just an enemy. He did an excellent job no doubt, but its getting to the point where they might just start using the robots without flesh or anything.
I'm all for Arnie being in it, but I don't think it will have to be a requirement to the story. I think people just associate him with the Terminator series obviously.
And did I seriously just see someone call Equilibrium a bad movie???? I must be hallucinating.
HellsJester
June 21st, 2008, 04:08 AM
I take it you haven't seen Equilibrium? Or what about Reign of Fire?
Equilibrium owned. Reign of Fire was ok but then again maybe im being too generous since i have a dragom obsession.
Stewie Skywalker
June 21st, 2008, 05:23 AM
Dude I loved Reign of Fire I was like 11 when that came out I thought it was like the best **** ever LOL. I watched it recently and I see its like ehh, but the dragons in that film were just ****ing incredible. To this day I haven't been as amazed seeing CGI as I was when I saw that for the first time. Hulk and Superman Returns were quite amazing though.
HellsJester
June 21st, 2008, 05:32 AM
Only pro for this movie is that Christian Bale is in it.
Everything else (and i mean everything else) is a con.
Bale Out!!!!
Stewie Skywalker
June 21st, 2008, 05:59 AM
I just read what is supposedly the whole story for T4, McG has lost his mind.
grcswoosh
June 21st, 2008, 06:57 AM
am i the only one that liked T3? i thought it was awesome although it could've been more violent and darker i still like it.....
Sure I liked it but as you said it just wan't dark/violent enough. In other words it wasn't true Terminator style. But I definitely will buy it someday.
oh and as for T4 not being good if arnolds not in it wtf?
he is like 65 how the f#$% is he gonna do it hugh the best u can hope for is a cameo...so lets not be so ignorant
I don't say he has to be in it. I think our problem with T4 can be summed up in 7 characters...
McG
PG13
RedDragon7
June 21st, 2008, 07:53 AM
Considering Supernatural, I'd say its possible this could get dark and violent as the the originals were.
the_End
June 21st, 2008, 04:55 PM
I just read what is supposedly the whole story for T4, McG has lost his mind.
What's the supposed story anyways? I've heard a bunch of rumors now anyways.
Stewie Skywalker
June 21st, 2008, 08:14 PM
Okay here it is, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED DO NOT LOOK AT THIS! I REPEAT DO NOT LOOK AT THIS!
It’s funny how one little news item will sometimes lead to even bigger ones. Case in point: The Hollywood Reporter informs us that Bryce Dallas Howard (who was utterly wasted as Gwen Stacey in Spider-Man 3) is being sought after to replace Charlotte Gainsbourg in Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins for the role of Kate Connor - the wife of John Connor (i.e. Batman himself Christian Bale).
Filming has already started in New Mexico and Gainsbourg apparently had to bow out due to scheduling conflicts with a French comedy she’d previously committed to. Fair enough and that’s certainly not uncommon in the film (http://screenrant.com/major-spoilers-for-terminator-4-1645/#) industry.
Later that afternoon, Aint-It-Cool-News‘ Moriarty posts one Helluva major spoiler via a contact of his:
“Alright so the main character is a cyborg named Marcus. For some background, Marcus was a criminal who was executed in 2003. He donated his body to Project Angel which was involved with SkyNet. They take his body and make a terminator out of him so he’s a terminator skeleton but has living muscle/skin and a beating heart too. At the end of the movie (http://screenrant.com/major-spoilers-for-terminator-4-1645/#) John Connor is fighting a T800 model (http://screenrant.com/major-spoilers-for-terminator-4-1645/#) 101 and loses. He dies and the top resistance people come up with a plan to help the resistance keep fighting on. The resistance feels that it’s important to keep the image or idea that John Connor is still alive so the resistance keeps going. So they rip off Marcus’ skin and put John Connor’s on the skeleton so now Marcus is John Connor.”
Not too long later, CHUD’s Devin Faraci helped clarify the matter saying:
I can’t confirm that last part completely, but it gibes with everything I have heard from multiple sources. I wasn’t sure if that aspect was changing after the writer’s strike - Connor’s role has been beefed up considerably since I first got my information - but assuming that Moriarty’s source is talking about the latest drafts (and be aware that he could be talking about the same drafts I was talking about six or seven months ago, which may be very outdated at this point), this spoiler is right on the money.
And just a few minutes ago, guess who decides to add their $.02 into the matter? Why, the director of Terminator: Salvation: Mr. McG.
Posting on the film’s official blog, the director says only this about the recent rumors:
“By the way, there are only three people who know the ending.”
Even if it is true, do you think McG would just admit it? Of course not! He’s going to lie like crazy - understandably, I might add!
Moriarty and Devin are two guys who definitely know their stuff. So I’m going to take their word on this. For more details and their opinions on all this, check out their stories below.
Sources: Aint-It-Cool-News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36947), CHUD (http://chud.com/articles/articles/14987/1/THE-TRUTH-BEHIND-THAT-SHOCKING-AICN-TERMINATOR-4-SPOILER/Page1.html), Terminator: Salvation Blog (http://rss.warnerbros.com/terminatorsalvation/) and The Hollywood Reporter
the_End
June 21st, 2008, 08:57 PM
^ Already read that a few weeks ago. I swear to ****ing god if that's the ending I'm going to kick McG's ***!!!!!
THUGGEDOUT
June 21st, 2008, 10:31 PM
^ Already read that a few weeks ago. I swear to ****ing god if that's the ending I'm going to kick McG's ***!!!!!
I'll help you with that, hat has to be one asinine ending....
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