Do you have a xbr(its just a rant)?

[uptownrockstar]

Heh, Just trying to start some new convo. I've been so happy since i've got my 40xbr4. i saved for a whole year(and mind you, the price never went down $2,000). i already had a 1080i 30inch phillps dlp for my station, but i was getting that trueHd itch. I did my research, and spent a year of visiting best buys and the like, just staring at that tv. So you can imagine how happy i'am(really wanted it before IV):DD.

The reason i'm bringing this up is that this tv was basicly made for ps3, i was wondering who else was really crazy about this?, or is it really just me. I mean my cable stations look like 3d.

somebody had a thread about the rgb vs limited video setting on the ps3(he had a xbr,bless his heart). i told him, who needs it!

this TV has digit reality and clarity(DRC),black corrector, gamma settings, color space, detail enhancer, edge enhancer, Motion enhancer, CineMotion, game/text mode, video/photo optimizer, x.v.color, rgb dynamic range, and the color matrix. (no advert, yet cookies)

once again, YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW A PS3 LOOKS ON THIS. i'm gonna make scans, comments, rants?

[HondaF1Fanatic]

Heh, Just trying to start some new convo. I've been so happy since i've got my 40xbr4. i saved for a whole year(and mind you, the price never went down $2,000). i already had a 1080i 30inch phillps dlp for my station, but i was getting that trueHd itch. I did my research, and spent a year of visiting best buys and the like, just staring at that tv. So you can imagine how happy i'am(really wanted it before IV):DD.

The reason i'm bringing this up is that this tv was basicly made for ps3, i was wondering who else was really crazy about this?, or is it really just me. I mean my cable stations look like 3d.

somebody had a thread about the rgb vs limited video setting on the ps3(he had a xbr,bless his heart). i told him, who needs it!

this TV has digit reality and clarity(DRC),black corrector, gamma settings, color space, detail enhancer, edge enhancer, Motion enhancer, CineMotion, game/text mode, video/photo optimizer, x.v.color, rgb dynamic range, and the color matrix. (no advert, yet cookies)

once again, YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW A PS3 LOOKS ON THIS. i'm gonna make scans, comments, rants?

You also got free corner flashlights, mura, and motion smearing!!!! YAY!!!! :snicker:

Sony LCD's have poor video processing and screen quality control, IMO the TV built for the PS3 is the rumored LED Toshiba powered by a Cell Processor or the Pioneer PDPs.

[souperman11]

Cool, pick up an HDMI cable so you get better quality. I hope that "IV" plays in 1080p/i, if it doesn't my tv will stretch it vertically (its an 4:3 1080i mitsubishi) in 480p. Just wondering, but wouldn't this go in Home theater?

[drifterz28]

sony tvs rank high in all reports and the tv with the cell is not out yet. the sony sounds bad *** and wish that i could game and blu-ray in 1080p!!!!!

[Stickboy46]

Sonys are nice, but i couldnt pass up my 65" Mitsubishi 1080P for 1499. Looks just as good if not better than any TV ive seen.

[badz_ps3]

I don't want added processing to my images, I just want the straight up best re-creation of the original content, but I'm glad you enjoy your TV as it's not a light investment :D

[dj_siek]

Sonys are nice, but i couldnt pass up my 65" Mitsubishi 1080P for 1499. Looks just as good if not better than any TV ive seen.

now thats a good deal.

Im loving my Sony X series 40". my apartment isn't overly big so any bigger would have been over kill. Blu-ray looks unbelievable, as does COD4.

[zeon9881]

yea i have Sony XBR4 46inch

man does it look fantastic

[gecko617]

I have to agree, I have a 46" XBR4 and I'm really glad I got it.

[ex nihilo7]

ISF calibrated 52 inch xbr4. Please take your picture mode off vivid at this time, and also don't use the motion flow, you don't even need to use it. And luckily for me, I don't have motion smearing, or anything hondaf1fanatic mentioned, although I don't know what mura is. But some have had problems with the smearing.

[vipergts2207]

The KDL-32XBR6 is coming out soon and I'm probably going to end up buying it.

[hrustar]

The XBR is a beautiful TV, and I almost bought it. But I went with the Samsung 605 (It's comming today!) Overall, a much better picture IMHO. I found the blacks were better, more pop to the color and that super cool 3D/soap opera effect was a bit sharper.

Glad you like yours, hope/trust I love mine. Also picked up the Blu-Ray calibration disc to really tune in the colors.

[REFLEX]

You can't really "tune in" the colors with a calibration disc, or rather you can't really tune them in without going into the TVs service menus (the TV's actual CODE) and changing their values there, but first you'd need ultra expensive light reading equipment, like an ISF Tech.

Anyways...

[The Sith]

I like sony's post processing it definitely helps smooth outh the motion artifacts. There video scaling have improved some over last years xbr's. i.e. less jagged edges and digital blocking which is notorius in the samsung lcd's.

[konman]

The KDL-32XBR6 is coming out soon and I'm probably going to end up buying it.

Yeah I agree the new 32 XBR6 is gonna be sweet and the price 1199 how can you beat that for a new 32 1080P Sony XBR6 that has 120hz and the new XMB plus is designed for BluRay I can't wait till the end of may when that TV hits I'm so getting that for my bedroom.

[hrustar]

You can't really "tune in" the colors with a calibration disc, or rather you can't really tune them in without going into the TVs service menus (the TV's actual CODE) and changing their values there, but first you'd need ultra expensive light reading equipment, like an ISF Tech.

Anyways...

You are correct, to a point. ISF is the way to go, but it's spendy. I picked up Joe Kane's Digital Video Explained blu-ray. It comes with colored filters and does a damn good job for the price. It's not perfect, but it will impress most who see the results.

As for the SM, I'll be tweaking some of the settings within using some suggestions from another forum I visit.

[ex nihilo7]

You are correct, to a point. ISF is the way to go, but it's spendy. I picked up Joe Kane's Digital Video Explained blu-ray. It comes with colored filters and does a damn good job for the price. It's not perfect, but it will impress most who see the results.

As for the SM, I'll be tweaking some of the settings within using some suggestions from another forum I visit. If there is a best buy in your area, and you can afford 300 bucks for ISF calibration, go there since they have ISF certified techs. They can afford to offer calibration for less because they are such a big company.

[uptownrockstar]

i didnt hear about the xbr6's, sounds cool though.

[Sentinel]

I have KDL-70XBR3. It's MSRP is $33,000 but I only got it for $12,000 for my main living room. The picture is great but not worth $33,000 including features. I will be selling this in time OLED displays.

[ex nihilo7]

I have KDL-70XBR3. It's MSRP is $33,000 but I only got it for $12,000 for my main living room. The picture is great but not worth $33,000 including features. I will be selling this in time OLED displays.
Thats a deep discount. Still, are you rolling in the moniez or something?

[phalanges]

I've had a 46'XBR4 since October of last year and I'm loving it. I just need a bigger room/house cause I live in an apartment now.

[rx785guy]

proud owner of a 46xbr3, and ive been in love with it since the day I bought it.

[GameSpawn]

You also got free corner flashlights, mura, and motion smearing!!!! YAY!!!! :snicker:

Sony LCD's have poor video processing and screen quality control, IMO the TV built for the PS3 is the rumored LED Toshiba powered by a Cell Processor or the Pioneer PDPs.Whut you talkin'bout Willis?! XBRs are the highest rated LCD televisions on the market and with newer LCD technology matching and surpassing Plasmas', XBRs are the GODs of all TVs under 52". The XBR processing chip is one of the best on the market and wipes the floor with other HDTV image processing chips. In CNet's overall highest rated LCD HDTVs 3 Sony XBRs make the Top 5, the 40" XBR1, 52" XBR2, and 46" XBR3 and seeing as there is no difference between the different inch sizes in the XBR line, you essentially have each incarnation of the XBR in the Top 5 , except the XBR4 and XBR5 lines which have not been out long enough to gain critics' acclaim.

The only downside to XBR's is that they are EXPENSIVE. If you have the money though an XBR is well worth the price. Otherwise I recommend you look at Samsung, because they are just about as great and are a bit cheaper.

[mudslag]

I love my 46 xbr4, got a great deal on price and it looks F'ing great with the PS3

[HondaF1Fanatic]

Whut you talkin'bout Willis?! XBRs are the highest rated LCD televisions on the market and with newer LCD technology matching and surpassing Plasmas', XBRs are the GODs of all TVs under 52". The XBR processing chip is one of the best on the market and wipes the floor with other HDTV image processing chips. In CNet's overall highest rated LCD HDTVs 3 Sony XBRs make the Top 5, the 40" XBR1, 52" XBR2, and 46" XBR3 and seeing as there is no difference between the different inch sizes in the XBR line, you essentially have each incarnation of the XBR in the Top 5 , except the XBR4 and XBR5 lines which have not been out long enough to gain critics' acclaim.

The only downside to XBR's is that they are EXPENSIVE. If you have the money though an XBR is well worth the price. Otherwise I recommend you look at Samsung, because they are just about as great and are a bit cheaper.

Neither Sony nor Samsung uses the best video processors and both have significant QC issues in the past with mura (clouding), smearing (MotionPro.....:rolleyes:), TBE, and flashlighting. Toshiba uses a 14 bit processor in their top of the line panels, Sony a 10. Sony used to use many 8-bit panels when many brands had moved to 10 bit. CNet reviews are not what I would go with by any stretch of the imagination. Look at some specialty home theater magazines and see what they choose in display style, and what brands.

If you need a flat panel HDTV and can ignore all of the chicken littles running around the internet spewing misinformation and lies about burn in and IR you would go with a PDP which has:

a: better color accuracy than an LCD
b: deeper blacks than an LCD
c: better motion processing than an LCD
d: less input lag than an LCD
e: better off axis viewing angles than an LCD

For XBR money you can generally get a much better display in the Pioneer Elite series. Heck, even the plain Kuros wipe the floor with the XBR.

[REFLEX]

You really gotta love the misinformation! Nice post ^^

[ex nihilo7]

When I got the 52in xbr4, I got it for such a discount for a new one. Well, I mean its really my dads tv. I told him about the pioneer kuros, but he looked at it and still wanted the xbr4. I explained to him about calibration and everything, but it doesn't matter. If I got the 52xbr4 at $4000 or even $3500 - $3000, then yes we would have been foolish. I think my posting quality has come down.

edit: When did Toshiba start using 14 bit panels?

[vipergts2207]

Neither Sony nor Samsung uses the best video processors and both have significant QC issues in the past with mura (clouding), smearing (MotionPro.....:rolleyes:), TBE, and flashlighting. Toshiba uses a 14 bit processor in their top of the line panels, Sony a 10. Sony used to use many 8-bit panels when many brands had moved to 10 bit. CNet reviews are not what I would go with by any stretch of the imagination. Look at some specialty home theater magazines and see what they choose in display style, and what brands.

If you need a flat panel HDTV and can ignore all of the chicken littles running around the internet spewing misinformation and lies about burn in and IR you would go with a PDP which has:

a: better color accuracy than an LCD
b: deeper blacks than an LCD
c: better motion processing than an LCD
d: less input lag than an LCD
e: better off axis viewing angles than an LCD

For XBR money you can generally get a much better display in the Pioneer Elite series. Heck, even the plain Kuros wipe the floor with the XBR.

I'll take my tv info from AVS.

[zeon9881]

Neither Sony nor Samsung uses the best video processors and both have significant QC issues in the past with mura (clouding), smearing (MotionPro.....:rolleyes:), TBE, and flashlighting. Toshiba uses a 14 bit processor in their top of the line panels, Sony a 10. Sony used to use many 8-bit panels when many brands had moved to 10 bit. CNet reviews are not what I would go with by any stretch of the imagination. Look at some specialty home theater magazines and see what they choose in display style, and what brands.

If you need a flat panel HDTV and can ignore all of the chicken littles running around the internet spewing misinformation and lies about burn in and IR you would go with a PDP which has:

a: better color accuracy than an LCD
b: deeper blacks than an LCD
c: better motion processing than an LCD
d: less input lag than an LCD
e: better off axis viewing angles than an LCD

For XBR money you can generally get a much better display in the Pioneer Elite series. Heck, even the plain Kuros wipe the floor with the XBR.

seeing as how almost most of the AVS forum members recommeneded me XBR4 and gave me so much detail on it and the fact that futureshop employees kept bragging on about the capabilits of it

i think ill stick to others oppinions other than the only one sprouting crap out

oh and by the way my cousin have pioneed LCD elite though in the difference between theirs and ours is very little, as in our is better,

oh and better color than an LCD huh since when did he scientists find that out?

[forzanerazzurr2]

Neither Sony nor Samsung uses the best video processors and both have significant QC issues in the past with mura (clouding), smearing (MotionPro.....:rolleyes:), TBE, and flashlighting. Toshiba uses a 14 bit processor in their top of the line panels, Sony a 10. Sony used to use many 8-bit panels when many brands had moved to 10 bit. CNet reviews are not what I would go with by any stretch of the imagination. Look at some specialty home theater magazines and see what they choose in display style, and what brands.

If you need a flat panel HDTV and can ignore all of the chicken littles running around the internet spewing misinformation and lies about burn in and IR you would go with a PDP which has:

a: better color accuracy than an LCD
b: deeper blacks than an LCD
c: better motion processing than an LCD
d: less input lag than an LCD
e: better off axis viewing angles than an LCD

For XBR money you can generally get a much better display in the Pioneer Elite series. Heck, even the plain Kuros wipe the floor with the XBR.

Wow you are so wrong. So wrong.

[ex nihilo7]

I'll take my tv info from AVS.
I didn't really see anything wrong with his post, except maybe he sounded a little arrogant. I saw on newegg a toshiba lcd (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889253090), with 14 bit processing. 42 inch 1080p for $1100.

seeing as how almost most of the AVS forum members recommeneded me XBR4 and gave me so much detail on it and the fact that futureshop employees kept bragging on about the capabilits of it

i think ill stick to others oppinions other than the only one sprouting crap out

oh and by the way my cousin have pioneed LCD elite though in the difference between theirs and ours is very little, as in our is better,

oh and better color than an LCD huh since when did he scientists find that out?
Just going on what Reflex has said, and then following it up, plasmas produce better color than LCD. Theres just a limitation on LCD technology, but that doesn't mean it can't look really good. Get your tv ISF calibrated, and please take it off vivid mode if you have set on there.

Wow you are so wrong. So wrong.
Not really, but I thought viewing angles were the same. I could be wrong.

[PrestoFIVE]

I got the XBR4 last this past christmas season. I honestly could not be happier for the price I paid for it. I choose it over the Samsung 120hz tv. It just had that "it" factor that I loved about it....

Now, with the argument with LCD's and the Pioneer Plasma's. Plasma's will always have (especially Pioneer) will have a "richer" picture to it. Now the differences between that and the XBR4 are small and most people can't tell.

I would of gotten a Pionner if it was less and price, and i didn't have soo much natural light come into the room. I hate the fact that Pioneer won't be making any plasma's anymore.....

[REFLEX]

Wow you are so wrong. So wrong.

I'll take my tv info from AVS.



He is correct........ go ask at AVS..... people will tell you the same stuff.

[HondaF1Fanatic]

He is correct........ go ask at AVS..... people will tell you the same stuff.

I think LCD technology is fundamentally flawed as a display technology, but I will concede that it has made serious advances recently. Still, the only time I would think about purchasing one is if I was going to use it as a computer monitor for hours a day, if my TV room was incredibly bright as my Kuro does struggle with the blinds open and the sunshine shining directly into the room during the evening, or if my wife forces me. I think Plasma is the better technology for flat screen TVs in 75+% of situations.

The XBR4-5 series are some of the better LCDs from 2007 if you get a problem free model, the thing is that I have seen very few LCD TVs from Sony, Samsung, LG, Toshiba, or Sharp lately that didn't have some deal breaking QC issues. If they could guarantee me a mura free, streak free, flashlight free, banding free, green push free, black crush free LCD I might buy it to appease my wife who thinks that I am ending the world by owning a "power hog" plasma. It would also be nice to not have to break in a TV when buying it, but I am willing to sacrifice 200hrs of watch time for the better picture.

[ex nihilo7]

What is mura and flashlights? Interestingly, my xbr4's green values were correct, but the blue was off. I got it ISF calibrated.

[HondaF1Fanatic]

What is mura and flashlights? Interestingly, my xbr4's green values were correct, but the blue was off. I got it ISF calibrated.

Flashlights are a byproduct of the medium used to create an LCD screen and manifest themselves as light areas in the corners of the screen on a black or mostly dark screen. Mura is clouds on your screen in the same situation. Both problems are relatively common on the XBR4/5.

[Krazy Ivan]

I have 40xbr3 and it's awesome... no problems and picture is amazing.