7.1 issue update

[saprano]

I got this from avs, im guessing he's from dts by the looks of his nameHi all - I received a number of inquiries specifically about a handful of NL titles, so I thought I would help clarify.
The titles in question were encoded with embedded channel remapping coefficients, only present on those few titles. The DTS-HD codec is very flexible and provides a unique way of telling the decoder how to downmix to 5.1, specific to the 7.1 layout used when mixing took place. The goal is to make sure the 5.1 listening experience stays true to the original 7.1 mix. There were a few titles encoded in this unique way – that are perfectly valid (and do sound phenomenal). The issue at hand is specific to the system, hence the "DTS-HD Master Audio | Limited" logo. As to the next logical question, I’ll apologize in advance and say that it is not my place to comment on future PS3 firmware updates.
There are numerous other DTS-HD MA 7.1 titles out there that use standard downmixing coefficients, which do output at 7.1.
I hope this helps and that you enjoy!
Kind regards.
PS- I’m out of town, so I’m jealous you all updated your PS3s before I did ;-)
so does this mean its not a ps3 issue? its dts?. the way they have it set up on some movie's(new line) http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13652558&posted=1#post13652558

[saprano]

here's some more info Please be a little more respectful and dont put words in my mouth.
1. I did not say never (think real hard about how the PS3 works). I said - I can not comment.
2. Only a handful of 7.1 titles decode and output as 5.1 lossless DTS-HD MA on the PS3.
3. All other 7.1 titles have no issues decoding 7.1 lossless DTS-HD MA on the PS3.
hugh/saprano - your posts are great examples of why I seldom participate on forums.
I was just trying to help ;)
he gave a hint about an update, lets hope its soon......and if your wondering, yes i made him kinda upset. thats to bad, how did he expect people to act? sony and dts should have told us first.

[rmac694203]

Wow. All he said was it seems to be a system issue (aka a ps3 issue) and that he can't comment on firmware updates. How would he know about firmware? The guy works for DTS. One thing they did say though....

Geronimo:
Would you people with 7.1 setups and those "special" NL titles try to uncheck all audio outputs except 7.1 in your PS3 audio settings and try the movie out and report back your results including your receiver? Maybe the PS3 will be forced to properly decode 7.1 then.

BasicBlak:
Yes, that work-around definitely works as reported earlier in the thread. I just tried it again, and each of the "afflicted" titles I own (Shoot 'Em Up - DTS MA; Rush Hour 3 - DTS MA; and The Condemned - DTS HR) will derive all 8 channels when each of the 5.1 LPCM items in the PS3's HDMI Audio Menu are unchecked. Of course, the pain in the butt will be remembering to go into the menus and re-selecting them again in time for the next viewing of a non-affected MA 7.1 title. Inconvenient, to say the least. But hey, it'll do in the interim.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/smile.gif

P.S., The Condemned is from Lionsgate, so the problem doesn't manifest exclusively on New Line titles.


So it seems if you uncheck everything but 7.1 pcm in the audio options it gets around the bug. If I could try it I would. Maybe someone else could try it out.