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360Spider
September 25th, 2007, 12:59 AM
What do you guys think of New York City refusing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian President? He wanted to go to ground zero and put flowers there. It was alright with Bush, but NYC didn't let. So now he's going to Colombia University to give a speech. And there are protests there as weel. They don't want him.

Do you think this is a good thing? Won't that make his relationship with us more critical?

Bansh88
September 25th, 2007, 01:05 AM
Nothing in the law that prevents him from comming. But any self respecting organization should not let him anywhere near their facility or area. Including Ground Zero where he wants to go.
Wheter he comes or not, goes to ground zero or not, he is making us look like a pack of pansies as a country.

And SHAME on Columbia University. They want this scumbag POS there but did not allow an ROTC group or the Minutemen to speak at the college.

Firefox
September 25th, 2007, 01:15 AM
Obviously, he is trying to be diplomatic and trying to get his "ruthless" image from
America's mind changed to a more "sensitive" image of him.

But of course he's just doing the opposite.

360Spider
September 25th, 2007, 03:48 AM
Yup....he is just trying to make us think he's good. But NYC told him that he can't place his foot in NYC because he supports Terrorism, and there is no reason why he should even go close to Ground Zero.

Vulgotha
September 25th, 2007, 04:03 AM
"The Evil has landed"


^ Headline of a local newspaper detailing his arrival. Love it.

The man is a terrorist in a suit. But the left is swooning over him and is trying to copy and paste his image over what real terrorists look and behave like.

The man is a monster. His belifs and statements show this.


Were he to be killed while putzing around Ground Zero (which is his intended destination), I can't say i'd be overly grieved over it.

The Christian part of me recognizes that its wrong to wish someone to die. No matter how evil.(to wish a man to be punished by justice is a differant matter...)

But the human part of me contends that, while I do not wish for his death, mourning over it nonetheless is a betrayal to how I feel about the man.

So I'm a bit at conflict on the issue.

stirlo
September 25th, 2007, 04:04 AM
stupid ******... he sounded like Borat "there are no homosexuals in my country" ... bit of a worry, what happened to them all?

Firefox
September 25th, 2007, 11:25 AM
Were the Columbia University students applauding him in the speech? :-?

I think Ahmadinejad's problem is his rhetoric, and his abstract answers.
I don't have any solid proof of which organizations he is supporting so
I can't judge him as of yet.

And the whole Israel wipe of the map is false if you read the entire context
of the interview.But...that doesn't mean he has good intentions in everything
he does.I honestly don't know what he plans to achieve on this trip.

Does Ahmadinejad have bad intentions? or does he Love publicity?
I guess we will see sooner or later in a few years.

lordmadjack
September 25th, 2007, 12:53 PM
Well if you hang all the homosexuals in your country, of course there are none :rolleyes: Christ what a double standard the liberals whom support this creep are...

When did the extremeists take over the left? and now they are making lee way in the right too :(

DINAMO788
September 25th, 2007, 01:45 PM
it would be a disgrace if me comes. i cant believe columbia university.

heres a great interview which happened only a few days ago on 60 minutes. you are see him try to dart any and all direct answers while managing to keep that smug smile on his face. doesn't fool me for an instant and im shocked that a little smile like that fools so many others out there


PART1
http://www.youtube.com/v/3L4D_VkOca4


PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/sqVpgJ-NHrE

roadkill
September 25th, 2007, 02:32 PM
I salut the man for entertaining these people. I mean America is the most ignorant Country in the World, obviously the people in attendance were there to heckle the man because they're so hopelessly brainwashed. Except for those jewish protesters, they're smarter - their agenda was a racist one. I like how jews in attendance called the man a terrorist, despite the fact that Israel has more blood on its hands than the President has in his entire body.

You're not fooling anyone with this victim crap. Everyone can see through it. Well, except for Americans. They're quite easily fooled, as your former Israeli Prime Minister sarcastically alluded to.

Edit: By the way, what a way to introduce a Head of State, President of another Country. Well done, America. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Ahh, wait. According to the average American, he's Doctor Evil - so there was really nothing wrong with such disgusting insults.

DINAMO788
September 25th, 2007, 03:48 PM
thanks for that raodkill but you can go now. your already a proven anti-semite and holocaust denier so arguing with you could be like trying to convince david duke that white christians aren't superior to all others

Behemoko
September 25th, 2007, 03:54 PM
I was watching his speech at the U of M yesterday (I live about a half hour drive from there) and everything he seemed to be saying was nothing I was expecting, lol. Nothing I heard was something I didn't want to hear.

DINAMO788
September 25th, 2007, 04:55 PM
he was at UM?

are you talking about university of michigan?

Sventax
September 25th, 2007, 04:58 PM
"The Evil has landed"


^ Headline of a local newspaper detailing his arrival. Love it.

The man is a terrorist in a suit. But the left is swooning over him and is trying to copy and paste his image over what real terrorists look and behave like.

The man is a monster. His belifs and statements show this.


Were he to be killed while putzing around Ground Zero (which is his intended destination), I can't say i'd be overly grieved over it.

The Christian part of me recognizes that its wrong to wish someone to die. No matter how evil.(to wish a man to be punished by justice is a differant matter...)

But the human part of me contends that, while I do not wish for his death, mourning over it nonetheless is a betrayal to how I feel about the man.

So I'm a bit at conflict on the issue.

SO WHAT BAD THING DID HE DO??

DID HE WISH FOR YOU TO DIE?

He can't be ignored. We already know he is a smart fellow.
He is not corrupt. He has the best intention for his people.
SO how come he is a terrorist to you and not to me?

Is he a Muslim or an Arab...is this the reason?

Sventax
September 25th, 2007, 05:03 PM
If you shave him, put a lil blond colored die ...he looks like Bush

One-Shot
September 25th, 2007, 05:35 PM
If you shave him, put a lil blond colored die ...he looks like Bush
Get a little sense in your head and you would realize how stupid that post was.

He probably wanted to pay tribute to the terrorists who died at gz.

Behemoko
September 25th, 2007, 06:49 PM
he was at UM?

are you talking about university of michigan?

I meant to clarify that, but forgot to edit. U of Minnesota.

DINAMO788
September 25th, 2007, 06:50 PM
yea my God you double posted to make yourself sound even dumber?

check the videos and you'll see. he knows how to put on a show but when asked direct questions he never gives direct answers.
watch the youtubes i posted and see how he dances.


and LOL one-shot thats a good one hahhaa


he finances and supports the terrorists in Iraq who are killing american soldiers. that alone is an act of war as far as im concerned. he is indirectly helping kill americans and fighting us.

jankren
September 26th, 2007, 11:16 AM
I think Ahmadinejad's speech at CU was not very impressive and kind of silly at times. But the opening introduction from the CU president was equally ridiculous to some things Ahmadinejad said. Only ignorant people would label him a dictator. Ahmadinejad does not have complete power over Iran. Moreover, he was democratically elected and he will step down when his terms are over like other Iranian presidents before him. Iran is not a monarchy like USA's dearest friend Saudi Arabia. It is a semi-democracy.


He probably wanted to pay tribute to the terrorists who died at gz.
Stupid prejudice.

Iranians mourned and held vigils after the 9/11 tragedy. Plus, not many people know this but Iran helped USA fighting the Talibans in Afghanistan.


he finances and supports the terrorists in Iraq who are killing american soldiers. that alone is an act of war as far as im concerned. he is indirectly helping kill americans and fighting us.

You seem to be drooling so much over war against Iran. Then I think you should enlist yourself right now so the US Army can use you in the front line against Iran's Mehdi Army in the future.

Peace,

Axe&Hammer
September 26th, 2007, 11:22 AM
Ahmadinejad is welcome to come to my nation,we just better not steal our freedoms,we need those.

NYC=UN host city=all world leaders welcome

DINAMO788
September 26th, 2007, 03:26 PM
I think Ahmadinejad's speech at CU was not very impressive and kind of silly at times. But the opening introduction from the CU president was equally ridiculous to some things Ahmadinejad said. Only ignorant people would label him a dictator. Ahmadinejad does not have complete power over Iran. Moreover, he was democratically elected and he will step down when his terms are over like other Iranian presidents before him. Iran is not a monarchy like USA's dearest friend Saudi Arabia. It is a semi-democracy.


Stupid prejudice.

Iranians mourned and held vigils after the 9/11 tragedy. Plus, not many people know this but Iran helped USA fighting the Talibans in Afghanistan.


You seem to be drooling so much over war against Iran. Then I think you should enlist yourself right now so the US Army can use you in the front line against Iran's Mehdi Army in the future.

Peace,


oh im ****ing sure they mourned those dead.

and a lot of good they did helping us eliminate the taliban. as for uoir resonse to my post thanks for that assumption yet my point stands, one of the many things wrong with him is that iran supports and supplies the terrorists in iraq who are killing americans. its been proven. iranian missiles have been found with the terrorists.

jankren
September 26th, 2007, 07:00 PM
oh im ****ing sure they mourned those dead.

Your use of profanity make it seem that you dont believe what I say.
Here, a little goggling is not that hard: http://www.time.com/time/europe/photoessays/vigil/index.html

http://img.timeinc.net/time/europe/photoessays/vigil/images/1.jpg

and a lot of good they did helping us eliminate the taliban. as for uoir resonse to my post thanks for that assumption yet my point stands, one of the many things wrong with him is that iran supports and supplies the terrorists in iraq who are killing americans. its been proven. iranian missiles have been found with the terrorists.
As Bill Maher nicely put it, if Iraqis were having a festival, Iran would supply their neighbor with firecrackers, and if the Iraqis were having a war, Iran would supply them with weapons instead.

Moreover, history did not start from 5 years ago. During the Iran-Iraq War, USA supplied Iraq's brutal dictator Saddam Hussein with advanced weapons to attempt to destroy Iran.

DINAMO788
September 26th, 2007, 10:22 PM
im fine going to war with iran if iran calls for it. then iran was a known enemy of the US too and they weren't friendly to us. the point here is iran is helping kill US soldiers. whats worse is their president denies these claims. and one thing i hate about this "simple honest man" is that he can NEVER answer a straight question directly. check the youtubes i posted these are VERY recent interviews.

and the thing about those vigil is nice and all but i didn't see a large turnout and i think that reflects the mindset of the iranian people. what made a bigger impact on me was seeing the crowds of thousands listening to ahmadinejad chanting death to america as seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/v/CUezKsBCRbk

of course not all iranians are like this. there are some that protest him. but im fairly sure that the majority of iran shares the same views or similar views as the people in that video

jankren
September 27th, 2007, 12:59 AM
of course not all iranians are like this. there are some that protest him. but im fairly sure that the majority of iran shares the same views or similar views as the people in that video
Another stupid prejudice. Even your own clip clearly shows that Iranians only hate American regime, not American people. Just look at around you. Americans hate Iranian regime as much as Iranians hate American regime.

Get yourself some Iranian acquintances and ask them directly.

To be honest, I too used to have stupid prejudice against Jews until I got into contact with some them. Then I realize they are not that different than me and everybody else.


im fine going to war with iran if iran calls for it. then iran was a known enemy of the US too and they weren't friendly to us.

I hope you are not one of those people who think that Iran is not friendly to USA for no reason except because 'they hate our freedom' crap.

Go to Wikipedia and search 'Mossadegh'.

There you will learn how USA took away Iran's freedom and caused them to be caged by Iran's current theocratic govt.

Anyway, so are you going to enlist in the US Army and fight for USA or not? America is in need of people like you if they wanna invade Iran.

Axe&Hammer
September 27th, 2007, 06:34 AM
Anyway, so are you going to enlist in the US Army and fight for USA or not? America is in need of people like you if they wanna invade Iran.
Already enlisted, I want to travel to exotic Iraq, the jewel of southwest Asia. I want to meet interesting people from an old and distinguished culture... and kill them. I want to be the first kid on my block with a confirmed kill.;)

jankren
September 27th, 2007, 10:16 AM
Already enlisted, I want to travel to exotic Iraq, the jewel of southwest Asia. I want to meet interesting people from an old and distinguished culture... and kill them. I want to be the first kid on my block with a confirmed kill.;)
Good. Then you are not one of those people who can only cheer for war but actually take part in it. Anyway, be careful there. Who knows you might end up being the first kid on your block who is confirmed killed by Iraqi resistance fighters.

Axe&Hammer
September 27th, 2007, 10:31 AM
Good. Then you are not one of those people who can only cheer for war but actually take part in it. Anyway, be careful there. Who knows you might end up being the first kid on your block who is confirmed killed by Iraqi resistance fighters.
*clucks tongue* for shame,for shame :no

DINAMO788
September 27th, 2007, 01:46 PM
Another stupid prejudice. Even your own clip clearly shows that Iranians only hate American regime, not American people. Just look at around you. Americans hate Iranian regime as much as Iranians hate American regime.

Get yourself some Iranian acquintances and ask them directly.

To be honest, I too used to have stupid prejudice against Jews until I got into contact with some them. Then I realize they are not that different than me and everybody else.


I hope you are not one of those people who think that Iran is not friendly to USA for no reason except because 'they hate our freedom' crap.

Go to Wikipedia and search 'Mossadegh'.

There you will learn how USA took away Iran's freedom and caused them to be caged by Iran's current theocratic govt.

Anyway, so are you going to enlist in the US Army and fight for USA or not? America is in need of people like you if they wanna invade Iran.

jankren, stop saying its all unsupported prejudice, if there is a valid reason then its not prejudice. regardless hating "the american regime" is to hate all of america. hating everything about america, government, lifestyle, society, thats something that all americans partake in and are in favor in. so when someone wants to death to your country, lifestyle, society, i do take that as an attack to myself too. maybe indirectly but i am a part of my country and if it dies then so will everything good going in my life.

i've met iranian people before and all of that. but the ones i've met in america, probably dont believe in death to america since they came here for a better life.

but do you think iran is friendly to the US? their president can never answer a direct question and in his interviews and public appearances usually goes off on these unrelated tangents that take focus away from the question that was asked. like in the interview even when asked a completely direct question, having him dance around it, and comming back tto asking him to firmly confirm an answer that was a difficult process when all we wanted was a yes or no.

i'll look at your wiki but i doubt all of iran's problems were caused by the US

jankren
September 27th, 2007, 08:27 PM
but do you think iran is friendly to the US?

Of course not. But there is reason between their not so good relationship which can actually be fixed with a little diplomacy if both parties are willing to do so.


ankren, stop saying its all unsupported prejudice, if there is a valid reason then its not prejudice. regardless hating "the american regime" is to hate all of america. hating everything about america, government, lifestyle, society, thats something that all americans partake in and are in favor in. so when someone wants to death to your country, lifestyle, society, i do take that as an attack to myself too. maybe indirectly but i am a part of my country and if it dies then so will everything good going in my life.

Since Americans hate Iranian regime too then I guess it is a mutual hatred, yes?

i'll look at your wiki but i doubt all of iran's problems were caused by the US
Of course not. But USA did take part in stealing Iran's chance to be a fully democratic and semi-secular country.


*clucks tongue* for shame,for shame

I was only advising you to be careful in the warzone. Its very considerate from me, no?